Hi, Here is my thought on locale set up after default installation should be. (This is with gdm 2.16.1-1)
Currently, default locale valure as installed on my system is: LANG="en_US.UTF-8" This was selected not to get in troble with Japanese characters under console. That thought of UTF-8 itransition itself is good idea but it is not simple. I am wondering how best installer set up system. Unless one is as expert as the installer team to set up console UTF-8 environment under non-X situation (i.e.,Linux console), you will likely to get negative effect of screenfull of unreadable display if you are in locale where characters not covered by ISO-8859-1 or similar. This happens in places such as Japan, China, Russia, Thailand(I am guessing), ... (We do not set up UTF-8 framebuffer console as default by the installer) I think this is what we should expect under UTF-8 encoding: Console and daemon should run under: --> For en_* and all non-latain character countrues: en_US.UTF-8 --> For non-english latain character countries may choose: *.UTF-8 (Fr, De, It,...) but I think en_US.UTF-8 is OK too. Then X applications should run under locale: *.UTF-8 I see 2 critical files: /etc/environment /etc/default/locale The use is kind of mixed. And: from my "grep pam_env /etc/pam.d/*": | atd:auth required pam_env.so | cron:auth required pam_env.so | gdm:auth required pam_env.so read_env=1 | gdm:auth required pam_env.so read_env=1 envfile=/etc/default/locale | gdm-autologin:auth required pam_env.so read_env=1 | gdm-autologin:auth required pam_env.so read_env=1 envfile=/etc/default/locale | login:session required pam_env.so readenv=1 | login:session required pam_env.so readenv=1 envfile=/etc/default/locale | ssh:auth required pam_env.so # [1] | ssh:auth required pam_env.so envfile=/etc/default/locale | su:session required pam_env.so readenv=1 | su:session required pam_env.so readenv=1 envfile=/etc/default/locale I think changing as following will help: | atd:auth required pam_env.so | cron:auth required pam_env.so | gdm:auth required pam_env.so read_env=1 | gdm:auth required pam_env.so read_env=1 envfile=/etc/default/locale | gdm-autologin:auth required pam_env.so read_env=1 | gdm-autologin:auth required pam_env.so read_env=1 envfile=/etc/default/locale | login:session required pam_env.so readenv=1 | ssh:auth required pam_env.so # [1] | ssh:# auth required pam_env.so envfile=/etc/default/locale | su:session required pam_env.so readenv=1 /etc/environment LANG=en_US.UTF-8 /etc/default/locale LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 This way we use /etc/default/locale for GDM while others use default /etc/environment. (Thanks to recent bug #361090 fix which some people oppose and reopened bug.) For French etc, maybe both /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment can be fr_FR.UTF-8 too. This way, we ensure GDM talks the local language while X is run under ones preffered locale set by GDM. At the same time, console, ssh and su are run under barebone so vt-100 terminal will not be surprized by Japanese characters. (SSH may bebetter to leave commented out line.) I do not care the use of these 2 files are swapped as long as gdm is started under *.utf-8 while console stays under en_US.utf-8. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]