On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 03:34:37PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Sven, > > On Monday 26 June 2006 15:09, Sven Luther wrote: > > This is not going to work, i have played nice, as Christian noted on > > saturday during the meeting, but over this past week, i got at least 4 > > different humiliation attempts from Frans, which are not waranted. I don't > > want to make a mess about this again, but this is not going to work under > > these conditions. > > Sven, can you please tell what those four humiliation attempts were. I doubt > there were ment as those.
Frans lording over me, and saying stuff like : no, you are not allowed to work on that until you have my approval. The last iteration was when on debian-kernel i was trying a very very trivial patch for rootskel to recognize /dev/hvc* as serial consoles, and Bastian asked me to add the /dev/ttyS* thingy too, and i mentioned to Bastian that he could as well add it too, since he had svn access and i not, then immediately Frans piped in angrily saying : That would not be appreciated. I also clearly dislike how Frans is treating me, everyone is claiming that i have the right technical knowledge, but i need to get comments like the above from frans all around. This whole mess was a social problem, and the only info i got out of it is that Frans felt i didn't respect him enough, but he sure as hell is not making any effort to be respectable. > Also, think about Eleanor Roosevelt's great statement: "No One Can Make You > Feel Inferior Without Your Consent". Maybe, but it is a pain ... > Regarding bubulle's statement at the end of the meeting, I thought that > statement was too early. I also found it nice, that you were at the meeting > and that the meeting was productive, but I wouldn't have made that statement > so fast. Because, after all this what happened, it's impossible to say if > working together works well after just a few days (or one IRC meeting for > that matter). Sure, it was a first step. But the first step is always easier. The problem is that i am the only one making first steps, and as long as Frans fails to recognize his own responsability in what has happened, it will never work long term. But then when i say that, i am considered a whiner. > > Frans, if you want respect from your team members, humiliating them at each > > minor occasion is not going to do it, sorry, > > Sven, if you want respect from the team, don't take every single word as > personal attack against you. Well, its the fourth time, and i see no prove that it will ever change. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]