(please only public answers. No /msg on IRC....)) Sven, There are (were?) people in the D-I team who are (were?) still hoping that one way to solve this situation can be found.
Up to today, I was still in the mood of putting some hope that you would understand that your current conflict with Frans can only be solved by focusing on the areas where everybody, *including Frans* acknowledges your expertise. Gaining back the confidence would have been a very long process and that commit access which you seem to put a huge importance on would certainly have come back.....certainly late (I would say after Etch release). The trust between you and Frans has been lost. And Frans is the team boss (by general agreement of the D-I team). In real life, when the trust is broken between a manager and his employees, a usual recommendation to both parties is to stick with factual work and do the best possible to avoid putting back personal relationship problems. Another common solution is to "separate" the people in different teams in the organization. Up to now, we have tried hard with the first solution which, honestly, could work if you don't bring back your old griefs all time long. Actually, in the real life, you would be fired *now*. And, yes, I have experience of that. Maybe you feel your svn commit access being removed as "being fired". That is not exactly true as your contributions are still welcomed (see last commit log....your last proposed patch has been commited less than 12 hours after being proposed). We are in Debian and probably some of us put more hope in human behaviour than we would put in real life. This is why I *still* believe that things can settle. But I'm afraid I'm among the very last one people who believe so. Please think about it. Keep factual, focus on your technical work. Ignore Frans, he will anyway now ignore you, like it or not. Communication between you is actually not possible and trying to decide who's fault this is will not help. It will only dig a bigger hole. Some people (I know about Holger and I do so also) have offered to act as proxies in order to allow your contributions to D-I to continue, doing the best that we can. Because we believe that it's still worth it (and, believe me, several people will not understand why I still think so). Please be confident in *us* even if you are actually not confident in some other team members. Not sure that I have proofread that mail enough....please give me some excuses if some part seem offending to you (or other people). They are not meant to be so....and I wanted to send this mail *now*. Friendly....really.
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