On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 11:25 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Le Mer 15 Mars 2006 03:01, Andres Salomon a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther removed > > from the project. The process is outlined here: > > <http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg00005.html> > >, and I have already completed step 1. > > I strongly oppose to such an expulsion.
It amazes me that people oppose expulsion, but are perfectly happy to allow the DAMs to decide whether or not a NM is to be let into the project. Why do we trust the DAM's judgement in one scenario but not the other? > > what is wrong with you ? are you gone completely insane or what ? I'm tired of discussions immediately degrading into personal insults. > > I know Sven may sometimes be a bit overpresent in some trolls, he also > may answer too quick, without having read the mail he answers to > correctly enough. But AFAICT, I've always seen him apologies when he > did so (I can provide links if you can't believe me…). > That is not the case. Furthermore, apologizing repeatedly does not make his behavior right. > If you want to expulse any DD that taunts a release manager, a > ftp-master or a debian sys-admin, hey, please begin with the recent > thread about the NEW queue beeing stuck again. There is a lot of DDs > that need you to rule about them. This is not about taunting a release manager, an ftp master, or a DAM. This is about repeated aggressive, childish behavior, against a number of people. Sven seems to anger almost everyone he works closely with. The examples I provided are just the tip of the iceberg. I thought I explained this in my followup email[0]. [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/03/msg00621.html
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