On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 06:34:55AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
>
> > That said, if we had done the change in august, then we would not have this
> > problem anymore now, so the whole discussion comes down to if we will
> > release
> > this year yet (highly unlikely), or 6 or more onth from now.
>
>
> As a side remark in this thread, it would certainly be nice if we
> don't read such remark ("it's unlikely that we release in less than 6
> months) too often. I'm sometimes thinkink that part of our release
No, i said it is unlikely that we release this year yet, i would bet for
january/feburary if all goes well, but this year is in 28 days, and i believe
this is less than the RMs post t-p-u fixing schedule, so ...
And the main thing is that for cases where not much packages are involved,
holding back for a maybe release that never happens is not a nice thing to do,
and create more work for the maintainers, and more frustration than it is
worth. Notice that i was told, we will release imminently and held back
progress in packages two times already. Once for kernel-pckage in december
2003, and once about this selfsame issue in august,
> problems is because there is a strange feeling among developers that we
> cannot release.
> We should always be in a release mood...even two days after a release
> happened..:-)
Well, but not to the point of freezing progress. In this case, if it was not
for d-i, i believe that solving the issues involved takes less time that any
upto freeze schedule we might have, so it is worth it. Even for d-i, i don't
think the issues are all that complicated, but let's wait and hear back from
Colin's tests in ubuntu, if that can make joeyh happier.
> On my own side, given the recent release update, I'm still optimistic
> about the release.
I bet you a champaign bottle that we will not release in 2004 :)
> Given the arguments exchanged in this thread, I'm also not really in
> favour of a parted change now, for d-i sarge release.
fine, you just volunteered with joeyh to hand-hold all those users whose
windows will have become unusable to fix it :)
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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