----- Forwarded message from Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- From: Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:06:38 -0700 To: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug#267928: install report - sarge installer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040820 Debian/1.7.2-4
Joey Hess wrote: >Mark Phillips wrote: > > >>Only one problem. When I tried to print using CUPS, I found that cupsys >>was not installed. I had to do an apt-get install cupsys to get the >>server installed and running. After that, I could not log onto the server >>using the KDE print manger; I had to use the web interface. Once the >>printers were configured, printing is working. >> >> > >How did you install CUPS? There's a "print server" option in the task >selector, which will install cupsys and some other stuff, as far as I >know that should work fine. We don't include a print server by default >unless you select that. Which tasks did you select to install, and how >did you try to print using CUPS? > > > Joey, I only selected workstation during the installation. I never got a print server option. After the installation was finished and I booted into kde I went to printer configuration (Printing Manager). I selected CUPS at the bottom selection and then tried to add a printer. I got an error message, so I tried Restart Server and Configure Server; both returned error messages. I do not remember the actual messages, but the content lead me to believe that the cups daemon was not running. I tried man cupsd and got a not found error. I tried a ps aux | grep cup and got nothing. The also lead me to believe that the cups server was not installed or running. I then did an apt-get install cupsys. After cupsys was installed, I tried to configure it from the Printing Manager. I got the login dialog with my user name filled in. I put in root as the user name and then the root password, but I got an error message saying I did not have permission to access the server. I used a browser to access localhost:631, got the cups page, logged in as root, and set up the printers from there. I still cannot configure cups printers from the kde Printing Manager, but that is no big deal as I can access the cups web page. Is there a way for me to fix this? BTW, I did the same install using the same image on a different machine and had exactly the same results. The other machine is a Dell Inspiron 3000 (an older machine). I had to go through the same installation process for cupsys. I hope this helps. Let me know if you need any other information. Mark P.S. Now that I think about it, there may have been a print server option when I selected workstation. However, I did not know at the time that I needed that to print from my workstation. Since the kde Printer Manager offers CUPS as an option, but it is "broken" without the print server, newbies like me can get confused and frustrated. Perhaps a question on how one will use the workstation will help - e.g. "Do you plan to print to use networked printers?". If yes, then include cupsys in the installation so it works with kde. A further thought. I have both kde and gnome installed (as a result of selecting workstation). I only use kde, so is there a way to ask the question which one the user wants before installing both? I have limed disk space and I hate to have a bunch of apps hanging around that I will never use. I am leary of doing an apt-get remove gnome for fear of breaking something. I think there was an "expert" mode option, but that option has way too many choices and I have run into massive dependency hell when I tried it (not with this installer, but other Debian installer). Again, just my 2 cents. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- see shy jo
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