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Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 27 May 2004 20:44:12 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 27 13:44:12 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from (localhost) [200.213.46.35] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BTRjX-0003kE-00; Thu, 27 May 2004 13:44:11 -0700 Received: from marga by localhost with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BTRj7-0000Vm-Eu for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 27 May 2004 17:43:45 -0300 Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:43:45 -0300 From: Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Long report - Many things Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: Package: installation-reports I'm at the debconf, I've been testing the latest build against the hardware provided for us. This is a Pentium IV of 2.00 GHz. with 2 network cards, 40 Gb Hard Drive, and some other nice stuff (sorry for not pasting cpuinfo and lspci, but the machines had no network). So, here come my comments: Network ======= If no network is detected with the DHCP thing, the next thing that appears is a "Input your IP" dialog. I think this is quite bad, since the user might not know what to input there and be stuck. I think the good thing to do would be to ask: Do you want to set up the network manually? And if not, well, no network is setup... When there's no network, no network should be used. This is to say that if no network was detected or configured, it makes no sense to inform the user that "security" could not be reached, and that kind of stuff. Partition Manager ================= About the partitioning system, well, it's pretty awful, but anyway, I think the "multi-user" setup is not properly named... Maybe "Safe Partitions", or "Advanced Partition Separation", or something. Or, if you really mean to call it "multi-user" because of the size of the /home, it would be nice to have a "Storage server" flavor, with a big /var and a small /home. Also, about this multi-user flavor, I was using a 40GB drive, and my / was assigned 148Mb. This is not very wise, since we are having /etc, /boot, /root, /bin, /sbin and /lib in this partition... I would say maybe 256Mb would be wiser. Of course, you already know that the design of this debconf dialogs is difficult to read. I have a couple of suggestions to make it a little bit better: * Please add GO buttons in all (or almost all) the screens. Instead of an option "Finish and proceed" that's mixed up with the other options. * Please don't make the user have to type the name of the unit (like GB or MB), it's error prone and confusing. A sign saying "enter the value in MB" or something would be better. * The Tamagotchi is confusing and scaring. It took me a long time to find out that there was HELP about the meaning of those. I think the HELP button should be just in the middle of the Back button and the OK button I'm asking for in the first point. * "Guided partitioning" should be "Restart with guided partitioning". Countries, Localization and Stuff ================================= The second question of the installer is the keyboard selection. This is a good improvement over the previous installation that just assumed the keyboard. But I've noticed that in the English installation, keyboards DO have names, while in the Spanish installation, keyboards are identified by the layout name (la, es, br, etc). In non of the cases is there an alphabetical order. I think they SHOULD be in alph. order. When selecting the timezone, I selected "America", and then I had a long list of cities... It would be nice to have "America" divided by countries... I know this means adding a new debconf screen and new names to translate, but it's really not nice to be looking for the city I'm in the middle of a mess of cities of the whole continent. Tasksel and Aptitude ==================== There's no going "back" from Tasksel... I selected tasksel only to see which tasks I had available, but thinking of using aptitude to do the proper install, and then I had no back button. Just finish or cancel. ============== That's about it for now. I hope someone will read and do something about this things... :) -- Love, Margarita Manterola. --------------------------------------- Received: (at 251418-done) by bugs.debian.org; 8 Jul 2004 18:50:46 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 08 11:50:46 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from lns-th2-5f-81-56-227-253.adsl.proxad.net (kheops.homeunix.org) [81.56.227.253] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Bidyo-0002OU-00; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:50:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kheops.homeunix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838324064 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:50:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kheops.homeunix.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kheops [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29594-01 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:50:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org (mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org [192.168.1.3]) by kheops.homeunix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28014062 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:50:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org [127.0.0.1]) by mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599742326F for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:50:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mykerinos [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26301-01 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:49:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org (Postfix, from userid 7426) id ACD0D23265; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:49:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:49:52 +0200 From: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Countries are sorted now (partially) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-message-flag: Outlook is a good virus spreading tool. It can send mail, too. X-pot_a_miel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at mykerinos X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at kheops.frmug.org Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: The countries are now sorted in countrychooser's short screen ; which is imho enough. Hence closing the BR -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]