[ Please keep that on list!!] Am Mit, den 07.07.2004 schrieb Ben Kinder um 14:01: > Why not using Synaptic at installation time?
Because you can't run Synaptic without X probably :-) > > > > --- Gaudenz Steinlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Die, den 06.07.2004 schrieb Nathan Hurst um 7:36: > > > Hello, > > > I did some simple user testing yesterday using > > some windows experienced, > > > linux newbie people to install debian using the > > new sarge installer. I > > > watched and took notes, but didn't get involved. > > Here are my results: > > > > I think that you don't say a word about the first > > stage (before the > > reboot) indicates that this stage is fine. > > > > > > 1) Confusing about real name and user name. After > > setting up the root > > > account the installer asks for a name for a real > > person's account. > > > After this it asks for a username. Some confusion > > as to why the same > > > question was asked twice. > > Do you think that the wording of the screen should > > be improved or is it > > the concept of separating realname and username that > > confused the > > users? > > > > > > > > 2) because we were installing behind a firewall > > the installer was unable > > > to access security. I suggest something be added > > to note that this can > > > be broken out of using control-C or similar. > > Alternatively, perhaps the > > > user can be asked if they want security updates? > > > > > > 3) tasksel seem to stump people - you have to > > discover the help button > > > to work out how to drive it. Perhaps display the > > help first? > > tasksel has been rewritten by joey hess. I don't > > know if the new tasksel > > will be included in sarge. The new tasksel uses the > > same user interface > > as the rest of the installer. > > > > > > 4) installation is slowed down by the fact that > > you have to serialize > > > downloading, unpacking and setting up. Could > > these be pipelined? We > > > are using a loca, fast, private apt-proxy for the > > installation, yet the > > > bulk of the time is still spent waiting for > > network and unpacking. > > > > > > 5) the x-server kit failed to detect the NV16 > > video card, nor would > > > setting the driver to nv help (this is probably a > > bug against Xfree though). > > If you have enough information, please submit a bug > > on xfree86. > > > > > > > > 6) one user set the priority to low thinking that > > was the easiest option > > > on an older installer CD. I don't recall seeing > > that choice in the most > > > recent installer though. > > The installer automatically takes the priority of > > the first stage. > > > > > > 7) general feeling that the installer asked too > > many questions. > > Do you know of any particular question that could be > > avoided? > > > > > > 8) tasksel list was too fine grained for languages > > (the list was hard to > > > scroll through), and too coarse grained for > > everything else. Will > > > tasksel be available once the system is installed? > > If so, it might be > > > worth mentioning that users can always install > > something later. > > In the future language tasks should be selected > > automatically depending > > on the choosen installation language. > > > > > > 9) being in Australia, the timezones list was > > confusing - we also have > > > 'Eastern Standard Time'. Perhaps a less > > US-centric interface would > > > start at the global groups list first? (This may > > have been set by using > > > the 'us-american' option at the begining?) > > Probably the installer was to smart. If you select > > us-american it will > > assume that you are located in the US. > > > > > > These are merely observations, not criticisms - I > > hope that I've found > > > something useful for the projects. I will repeat > > this testing in future > > > when time and bodies permit :) > > > > Thank you for this test. This kind of testing is > > very useful to improve > > the usability of the installation process. > > > > Gaudenz > > > njh > > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
