On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:42:04PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > It is really sad that this kind of thing can only advance with public > rants and threats, but this seems to be the way things work in debian.
Are you sure that your rants don't just make fewer and fewer people interested in listening to you, including the people you need to listen to you? Contrary to what you say, I normally find ranting extremely counterproductive in Debian, and I've never had any trouble with ftpmaster delay. Presumably this is due to the natural human fact that there's less resistance to dealing with people who make themselves easy to deal with: if I know that doing something is going to unleash a huge storm of ranting then I will put it off and do something else no matter what names you call me (and getting personal and calling me names *will* just make me inclined to put it off even further because it's obviously going to be too painful). You say that ranting worked the last time. Don't you see that if you encourage this by doing things when people rant at you, then you're letting yourself in for being ranted at a lot? From the point of view of reducing one's personal level of stress, it makes perfect sense to put off people who rant. Ranting about *this* might help you let off steam but it's hardly going to solve the actual problem. Welcome to human nature. Work with it, don't fight it. The ftpmasters are not demons, but if you persist in treating them all the time as if they are then you can hardly expect priority service. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]