Hi Luca, Luca Boccassi <bl...@debian.org> (2025-01-15): > I plan to split out udev-udeb and libudev1-udeb from the current > src:systemd source package/repo into a new src:systemd-udeb (forked > from the old one, so generated udebs will be the same). > > This should greatly reduce your workload as src:systemd uploads will > no longer be in your way and require actions/reviews, and I do not > plan to update src:systemd-udeb more than once per major upstream > release in unstable, and never in stable-p-u. It will also allow me to > apply several improvements to src:systemd that are currently blocked > by the fact that udebs are built from it. The udeb source package will > be much smaller and leaner, with drastically cut build deps and so on. > So it should be a win/win all around.
Indeed, that looks like a very solid plan, thanks! Especially if the split package gets sync'd from time to time (as opposed to be forgotten about forever — which could work for some other components, but not quite for something as dynamic and tied to the Linux kernel as udev). > Are there any particular precautions I should take? It will require a > trip through NEW, so for a time the udeb might disappear from unstable > until it is processed, but hopefully won't be too long. I think > there's somewhere a list of source packages building udebs, that will > need to be updated. Anything else? I think this heads-up is sufficient. Depending on the versioning and timing of the two source packages, and when you drop the udeb, there might be a smoothless transition (~ “live takeover”), or a going-away- then-back-again, and we can live with daily builds being broken for a few days anyway. There's no imminent release either, so all good. The list of udeb-producing packages is monitored and I'll update it indeed. I might have to tweak some tooling to get meaningful diffs to build the next release announcement, but that's really just for me. I don't think there's anything else that should care about such details (the tricky part I could think of is the Built-Using generation and even that doesn't seem to list either systemd or udev so everything should be fine already). Feel free to go ahead whenever you are ready. I'll probably see the package getting out of NEW on my own, but feel free to follow up once it's ACCEPTED if you remember/can spare a minute, so that others know the “red moment due to the systemd split” moment (if any) is over. Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
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