Control: reassign -1 general On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 04:24:49PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > The linux-sysctl-defaults provides a "sysctl configuration file setting some > > sensible defaults for Linux". Among other things, the settings provided by > > this package are needed in order to allow unprivileged users to run the > > ping(8) command, now that ping is no longer installed with CAP_NET_RAW. > > > > As linux-sysctl-defaults is not strictly required by iputils-ping or any > > other components of the base install, it is only listed as a Recommends, and > > as such it does not appear to be installed by default. Thus I believe that > > it should be added to the list of packages explicitly installed by default > > during installation. > > > > In theory, if we don't want to explicitly install the package in d-i, > > another possibility might be to bump it to Priority: standard and let > > tasksel install it. I'm not sure what the tradeoffs might be that would > > drive the decision one way or another. > > In either case, I'd recommend discussing it on e.g. debian-devel@, > hopefully getting a consensus, and coming back to us with the results. > > I don't think the installer team should make that kind of decisions (in > general), but if someone else is happy to take responsibility for this > particular request, that's of course fine with me. > > Regarding tasksel vs. Priority, the latter has a potential for a much > wider impact: lots of Debian system are installed without d-i and/or > tasksel, and most if not all would get the package via Priority. (Think > of all the tools building Debian images, chroots, containers, etc., on > top of debootstrap/mmdebstrap/etc.)
I'm not sure it's the case that most of those other systems install Priority: standard. Debootstrap certainly doesn't by itself, and I don't think the debuerreotype tool for building OCI images does either. In any case, your point still stands. I'll re-assign this to general for now, and we can discuss the options in a broader context. FWIW, we have added linux-sysctl-defaults to the sid/trixie VM images built by the cloud team. noah
