Your message dated Fri, 21 Aug 2020 04:58:02 +0200 with message-id <20200821045802.07acb7c9ded347064600d...@mailbox.org> and subject line Re: Mass-closing old installation-report bugs --- round 5 has caused the Debian Bug report #871569, regarding installation-reports: offline machine, install from ISO images -- use case feels neglected to be marked as done.
This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact ow...@bugs.debian.org immediately.) -- 871569: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=871569 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
--- Begin Message ---Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Hello, the idea was to install and use stretch on an offline machine. No network access available or needed, now or in future, but all the software in Debian at its disposal. I decided that the best way to achieve this would be to obtain a full set of ISO images, since there's signed official releases of those, dd them to a bunch of USB drives and use them as if they were CDs. (Maybe a partial mirror on an external HDD would have been the better option?) Issues: 1) The installer booted off and recognised the first "Bluray" just fine, but at no point did it ask me if I had and wanted to add any other discs. It didn't even point me to the possibility of adding some via apt-cdrom. This was contrary to expectations, considering there's a set. Work around: add using apt-cdrom after installation has finished. 2) Neither the installer nor the system installed by it seem to have any concept of ISO data being on something else than a physical disc in an optical drive by default. After the first boot the first "Bluray" wasn't found any longer by apt and friends, as the path to the "optical drive" had changed. Work around: change the /media/cdrom entry in /etc/fstab to use /dev/disk/by-path/ and stick to one USB port, possibly tweak an apt-cdrom option or two, I forget. 3) After having added all three images I ran aptitude update -- out of habit but also because I'd gotten no indication that that wouldn't be neccessary. That spewed messages about not having a [signed, I presume?] Release file, "... can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use". See also #807996. Now that is *scary*, especially if you've done your homework and verified the ISOs every which way. I'm still not quite sure what's up with that, I've a hard time believing that the official ISOs simply don't have signed release files. According to Google that seems to have been the case in the past, but with the recent push to deprecate unsigned repositories that seems unlikly. In a way that ties back to item 2 -- chances are the ISO is not on a physically immutable medium nowadays. 4) When installing stuff, aptitude will sometimes output a warning about dpkg having completed fewer actions than expected. The likelyhood seems to increase with the number of packages installed / if the job spans multiple "discs". I'm not sure if it's actually detrimental, but in a couple of cases I could've sworn I needed a few tries to get everything to install. 5) Running MATE with default settings breaks this setup again, because it'll automount the USB drive as soon as it's connected (ignoring the mount point set for that in fstab ...). If you manually unmount it using the GUI, it doesn't just unmount, it removes the drive from existence, as far as Linux is concerned. Work around: disable everything to do with automount. Don't get me wrong, it works quite well now and it wasn't hard to figure out, but I've been using Debian for close to twenty years now. Someone newish might be stranded. And sure, the majority of installs will have network access, but surely the official images' use case isn't just "boot off it and possibly save a bit on bandwidth"? (Somehow that reminds me of physical copies of Steam games ...) It's possible that sets of fixed-size images aren't the right approach for today, maybe a few boot images plus signed "mirror dumps" in various sizes are the way to go, but in any case I believe that (mostly) offline systems should still be supported as a first class option. Regards Christian Pernegger -- Package-specific info: Boot method: ISO image dd'ed to USB flash drive Image version: debian-9.1.0-amd64-BD-[123].iso Date: End of July, 2017 Machine: 2016 netbook, Intel Partitions: n/a Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card: [ ] Configure network: [O]* Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Clock/timezone setup: [O] User/password setup: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [~]** Install base system: [O] Install tasks: [O] Install boot loader: [O] Overall install: [~]*** Comments/Problems: *) Having to configure network (in order to set hostname) on a system with no NIC is a tad counter-intuitive. **) TBH, using base 10 units for measuring any kind of computer memory drives me up the wall. Why can't the installer's partitioning tool support base 2 suffixes as well? Have you tried creating two partitions that are exactly the same size with that thing? Hint: it doesn't work. Anyway, in previous versions I used to be able to do my partitioning on the (other) console using fdisk, then use the installer as normal, in stretch that confuses it no end. It would not format pre-existing partitions nor give me an option to do so, not even if the partition was zeroed. As a result it'd fail to mount the affected partitions later. luks involved, but nothing else fancy. Work around: Instruct the installer to zero the partition, abort that, commit changes, have it fail on the next partition, rinse, repeat.] ***) see top of report for main points -- Please make sure that the hardware-summary log file, and any other installation logs that you think would be useful are attached to this report. Please compress large files using gzip. Once you have filled out this report, mail it to sub...@bugs.debian.org. <snip, because nothing in the report is hardware-specific and I'm filing from a different machine anyway>
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--- Begin Message ---Hi, Holger Wansing <hwans...@mailbox.org> wrote: > > I'm closing the reports below. > > That's installation-reports for Debian 7 with > - undefined errors > - problems which are likely to have been fixed in the meantime > - successful installation > > Because of the age, there is no chance to analyse them further and therefore > they are no longer relevant or of any use for current releases: And thank you for filing these installation bug reports, they have been very useful at the time they were filed! If you know, that the issue you reported (and gets closed here) is still existing in recent installation images, please file a new report for that! round 5 (for Debian 7 / 8 / 9 / pre-buster ): https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=706219 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739299 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741206 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742647 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798896 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=799570 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=805342 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=738865 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=790708 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804154 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=851429 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=851432 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=851539 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=851740 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https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=927811 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928192 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928413 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928414 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928490 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929243 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929476 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=931241 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=931587 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=931918 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=944285 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=944762 -- Holger Wansing <hwans...@mailbox.org> PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
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