At Samuel Thibault's suggestion, I'm bringing some boot-time accessibility 
issues to this list.  Please excuse any naivete on my part; I'm not an expert 
on many of these topics.

As I understand it, Orca is generally installed as a dependency of a desktop.  
This makes me wonder whether a server system would (or should) have it.  This 
isn't an idle question: Ubuntu Server is available for the Raspberry Pi 4, but 
Ubuntu MATE is not.

Next, assume that a blind user has just installed a Debian-based system (e.g., 
Raspbian, Ubuntu) on a RasPi.  If they want to access it via SSH, they'll need 
a running SSH daemon and a way to determine the RasPi's IP address.  Avahi 
seems to be the Golden Path for zero-configuration networking on Linux.  Might 
it be possible to enable this by default?

-r

P.S.  I realize that Raspbian and Ubuntu have their own development teams, but 
it seems logical to start at the headwaters (Debian), then move downstream.


> On Feb 24, 2020, at 14:41, Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> Rich Morin, le lun. 24 févr. 2020 08:22:06 -0800, a ecrit:
>> The first notion has to do with the initial accessibility of the system.  
>> There is probably a minimum set of tools (e.g., Fenrir, Orca) that would let 
>> a user get started.  If these were installed and configured properly on any 
>> Debian-derived system, a blind user could hit a well-known key combination 
>> and gain access.
> 
> Orca is curently installed by default on Debian systems, by being a 
> dependency of task-{kde,lxde,lxqt,xfce,mate}-desktop and gnome.  In most of 
> these desktop environments, pressing control-logo-s starts Orca.  Ideally, 
> all desktop environments would support this shortcut. ...
> 
>> Finally, on systems based on the Raspberry Pi and similar devices, it would 
>> be helpful for the OS to come up with SSH and Avahi enabled, allowing the 
>> user to log in conveniently from another system.
> 
> Ssh is installed when you enable the ssh task.  Apparently avahi is not, but 
> that would be something to discuss with debian-boot@.

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