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I have applied an update for that chapter based on the recommendations below.
Thanks

Tagging this bug as pending


Holger

cyri...@bollu.be wrote:
> 
> Of course. 
> 
> But that page relies on lot of folk remedies imho. So, I believe the best is 
> to have some chat about it.
> 
> For examples:
> 
> 1) "For multi-user systems or systems with lots of disk space, it's best to 
> put /var, /tmp, and /home each on their own partitions separate from the / 
> partition. "
> 
> In my experience of more than 10 years administrating Linux servers, creating 
> separate /var and /tmp partitions always created more problems than it 
> solved: For example, usually, applications crashes when they can't write 
> their logs because there's no more space on the /var partition. So you 
> usually end up with more downtime when creating a separate /var partition 
> than putting everything in /.
> 
> (Note though that puttin everything in / may makes the problem more difficult 
> to solve if you can't access your server remotely as root - because in such 
> case you don't directly have access to the 5% disk space reserved for root-. 
> So you might not be able to log in remotely in such case)
> 
> OTOH, putting the /home folder on a separate partition still makes some sense 
> to me.
> 
> 2) "You might need a separate /usr/local partition if you plan to install 
> many programs that are not part of the Debian distribution."
> 
> Why?
> 
> 3) "Often, putting /tmp on its own partition, for instance 20–50MB, is a good 
> idea"
> 
> 20-50MB!?! seriously?!?
> 
> 4) The paragraph related to the swap don't really makes sense to me. For me 
> the rule of thumb is that people should try not to use swap (ie: by putting 
> enough RAM in you system) because using swap usually slows down your system 
> to a crawl. That being said, I've never tried to run a system without swap. 
> So, my point is not to say that a swap partition is not needed. Though, the 
> figures in this paragraph (eg: 256MB memory) seems to date from last century. 
> Also my point about how using the swap slows down the system might not stand 
> so well in these days of SSD drives...
> 
> 5) "On some 32-bit architectures..."
> 
> Do we really need to speak about 32bits architectures on an amd64 targeted 
> document? 
> 
> 6) "As an example, an older home machine might have 32MB of RAM and a 1.7GB 
> IDE drive on /dev/sda. There might be a 500MB partition for another operating 
> system on /dev/sda1, a 32MB swap partition on /dev/sda3 and about 1.2GB on 
> /dev/sda2 as the Linux partition. "
> 
> Last century figures.
> 
> =================
> 
> Summary: Here's my proposal for this page:
> 
> For new users, personal Debian boxes, home systems, and other single-user 
> setups, a single / partition (plus swap) is probably the easiest, simplest 
> way to go."
> 
> If your machine will be a mail server, you might want to make /var/mail a 
> separate partition. If you are setting up a server with lots of user 
> accounts, it's generally good to have a separate, large /home partition. In 
> general, the partitioning situation varies from computer to computer 
> depending on its uses.
> 
> For very complex systems, you should see the Multi Disk HOWTO (Old document 
> though). This contains in-depth information, mostly of interest to ISPs and 
> people setting up servers.
> 
> With respect to the issue of swap partition size, there are many views. 
> However, your best bet is always to try to avoid your system to swap by 
> putting enough RAM for your usage.
> 
> For an idea of the space taken by tasks you might be interested in adding 
> after your system installation is complete, check Section D.2, “Disk Space 
> Needed for Tasks”. 
> 
> Carsten Schoenert – Fri, 26. April 2019 10:03
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Am 26.04.19 um 09:11 schrieb cyri...@bollu.be:
> > > 
> > > woaw, this page is severely outdated!
> > 
> > a patch, or at least a rephrased text with the required updates and
> > changes would be more helpful.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Regards
> > Carsten Schoenert
> 


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