On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 01:17:02AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >[ Adding -accessibility@ and -cd@ to the loop. ] > >Steve McIntyre <st...@einval.com> (2014-08-17): >> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> >Control: tag -1 confirmed >> >> Another issue is that it requires much more memory, but that IMO is not a >> >> blocker. It does require careful documentation though. >> > >> >Holger's last reports reminded of this, which we finally didn't do for >> >wheezy. Unless someone has an objection, I'll schedule this switch for >> >the next d-i upload. >> >> Yay, definitely. We never did get round to this for Wheezy, so let's >> get it done now. > >On a related note: we have an amd64-i386 “multi-arch” netinst image. >I'd be happy to take opinions on the following questions since that's >the only image linked directly from www.debian.org, which leads some >people to call it “_the_ default installation image”… > >Its boot menu reads right now (at least in Jessie Beta 1): > Install > 64 bit install > Graphical install > 64 bit graphical install > Advanced options > Help > Install with speech synthesis > 64 bit speech install > >FWIW, I'm tempted to modify it so that it becomes: > Install > Graphical install > 64 bit install > 64 bit graphical install > Advanced options > Help > Install with speech synthesis > 64 bit speech install > >This means swiching items #2 and #3, so that we have 32-bit and 64-bit >entries together (which is what happens in the "Advanced options" >sub-menu). Speech synthesis entries can be kept together separately >(see below). > >=> debian-boot/cd@: anyone against such a change?
I'm more tempted to have: #if (amd64) via syslinux 64 bit Graphical install 64 bit Text install #endif 32 bit Graphical install 32 bit Text install Advanced options > Help #if (amd64) via syslinux Install with speech synthesis (64 bit) #endif Install with speech synthesis (32 bit) or do we split things even more? That menu is already too long, and causes scrolling for people to see the lower options (if they realise such a thing is possible!). How about we split things up some more, assuming we can get the auto-detect to work: #if (amd64) via syslinux 64 bit Graphical install 64 bit Text install 32 bit install options > Advanced options > Help Install with speech synthesis (64 bit) #else 32 bit Graphical install 32 bit Text install Install with speech synthesis (32 bit) #endif It'll need some extra work to deal with different paths through for i386 and amd64 here, but meh. It's possibly worth separating them totally, and make sure each path is clear in terms of which arch. On the multi-arch CD and DVD, the deeper "advanced options" menus are a bit too spread I think, so splitting at the top level would be a good plan for simplicity maybe? >The default is "Install" right now, which installs i386. The topic of >this bug report is switching to "Graphical install" by default, but >shouldn't we also promote amd64 by default while we're at it? This >would mean having "64 bit graphical install" as the default. > >=> debian-boot/cd@: do we want amd64 by default? Definitely - see above! >Since the menus can be confusing a bit, I'm also wondering whether >we should be explicit about the non-"64 bit" items, and prefix them >with "32 bit". > >=> debian-boot/cd@: opinions? Definitely - see above! -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. st...@einval.com "Further comment on how I feel about IBM will appear once I've worked out whether they're being malicious or incompetent. Capital letters are forecast." Matthew Garrett, http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59/30675.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140819214516.gk7...@einval.com
