Package: debian-installer Severity: wishlist Control: block -1 by 723952 I've been asked to add a udeb for dbus so that AT-SPI can use it. At the moment, any attempt to connect to the D-Bus session bus will either fail (if not in X11), or use the "autolaunch" mechanism involving dbus-launch(1) (if in X11).
I would prefer dbus-launch to go away - it's not very well written or documented, and tries to do too many things, none of them very well. To help with that, I've backported the new dbus-run-session(1) tool from dbus master. The ideal way to use that tool would be something like this, when running in graphical mode: exec dbus-run-session -- debconf -o d-i ... (Or if there's more than one process that could need to be in the D-Bus session, wrap their common parent in dbus-run-session. It's a bit like sudo, chroot, nice, pkexec etc.) The other way to put processes in a D-Bus session is to start them with DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in their environment, having first run a dbus-daemon and told it to write its address into a pipe. dbus-run-session does that in C. Here is an older shell-script implementation which you might find a useful reference: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-glib/tree/tools/with-session-bus.sh?h=telepathy-glib-0.22 Either way, if you can ensure that all processes that might want to talk to D-Bus or AT-SPI are run with a DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS, please let me know, and I'll remove dbus-launch (and hence its X11 dependency) from the udeb. In the glorious Wayland future, I would like dbus-launch (and the whole fragile autolaunch mechanism) to cease to exist entirely, in favour of GUI environments using systemd, Upstart, dbus-run-session, or dbus-daemon directly to get their session bus. S -- System Information: Debian Release: jessie/sid APT prefers proposed-updates APT policy: (500, 'proposed-updates'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.10-3-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_GB.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131008165152.ga4...@reptile.pseudorandom.co.uk