Package: installation-reports
Hi devs,
I got a new machine so I can now use the old one to play around on. I did an
installation of 7.0 Beta4 Cd1 on my old machine. I decided to approach this
as a newbie and my impressions. It's all my notes I made to myself. Kind of
on the verbose side. I hope you find it useful and feel free to ask me any
questions. Thanks for all the work you do.
Nick Marshall
Package: installation-reports
Boot method: CD.
Image version:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta4/i386/iso-cd/debian-wheezy-DI-b4-i386-CD-1.iso
Date: 2012.12.24-25
Machine: Compaq Deskpro EN
Processor: PIII Coppermine 730.93MHz
Memory: 377MB
Partitions:
Filesystem Type 1K-blocks Used
Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs rootfs 4804736
3517640 1043028 78% /
udev devtmpfs 10240 0
10240 0% /dev
tmpfs tmpfs 38328 580
37748 2% /run
/dev/disk/by-uuid/983e9f6a-471a-4f81-b28b-391651641240 ext4 4804736
3517640 1043028 78% /
tmpfs tmpfs 5120 0
5120 0% /run/lock
tmpfs tmpfs 154460 76
154384 1% /run/shm
/dev/sda6 ext4 4425760
144372 4056572 4% /home
Output of lspci -knn (or lspci -nn):
lspci -knn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge
and Memory Controller Hub [8086:1130] (rev 02)
Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset
Graphics Controller (CGC) [8086:1132] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation Device [0e11:0019]
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev
01)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC)
[8086:2440] (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller
[8086:244b] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:2411]
Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
00:1f.4 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1
[8086:2444] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:2411]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM
AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:2445] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation Compaq Deskpro EN Audio
[0e11:000b]
Kernel driver in use: snd_intel8x0
02:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM
Ethernet Controller [8086:2449] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation EtherExpress PRO/100 VM
[0e11:0012]
Kernel driver in use: e100
Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Initial boot: [E]
Detect network card: [O]
Configure network: [O]
Detect CD: [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives: [E]
Install base system: [O]
Clock/timezone setup: [O]
User/password setup: [O]
Install tasks: [E]
Install boot loader: [O]
Overall install: [O]
Comments/Problems:
<Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments
and ideas you had during the initial install.>
<The Begining of my notes>
Opening screen.
Install highlighted. Graphical Listed next. I'm not sure most people would
know the the difference on first boot. I think Install should be Graphical by
default and the Curses based one in the Advanced options sub menu. Should be:
Install [Graphical by default]
Help
Advanced options
Or like this:
Install [Graphical by default]
Install [No Graphics, CLI, something like that]
Help
Advanced options
Pressing Tab to edit the menu entry should be under Advanced options.
The bottom should say:
Press Enter to make selection and arrow keys to move up and down.
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Pressed Install
Lines appeared just above the "Press ENTER..." it paused, the disc spun,
screen blanked, came back on and was flashing the opening screen with varying
horizontal lines. This happened before on some of the other distro installs.
I think it happened on my squeeze install on this machine. Pressing
Control-Alt-Delete relaunches the installer boot menu. Must be an issue with
the video card.
Pressed Graphical Install
Same as above.
Pressed Help
looked over options here.
F2 - Prerequisites
Have the requirements. A clue on how much space needed for more than the base
install would be good. How much space is this install of CD1 going to take?
This machine meets the requirements
Line at the bottom shows "Press F1 for the help index, or ENTER to boot:"
Pressing ENTER
Undefined video mode number:314
Press <ENTER> to see video modes availabl, <SPACE> to continue, or wait 30
seconds.
waited 30 seconds.
It booted to the non graphical installer. I know this already but will check
if anything changed since 6.0.3 installer. Hope to try the graphical one
after.
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Select language|
English
Location|
United States
Keymap to use|
Dvorak
- It should say use up/down errors to move the highlighted option.
No more check the CD menu. No check out networking or DHCP and stuff.
Configure the network|
I'm still confused by this screen. My network administrator? This is what the
computer is called by other parts of the system that I have noticed. Not just
network related bits. Should be more like a "name this computer. It will be
how it's identified by programs and internet and/or network usage. No spaces
in the name." Something like that.
Called it debianex. Ex for Experimental box.
Configure the network|
Same issue. It use to automatically pick the ISP provider. Now it's blank.
Do I have a .com, .net? leaveing it blank. Seemed to work.
Set up users and passwords|
Good to know, but very confusing.
How about: Root will be this machines system administrator. Root can change
all aspects of the machine, and read everyone's file. Root should not have an
empty password. Leaving it blank will give the first user created on the
system the ability to become root by using the "sudo" command. A good
password ...[all the stuff about password creation]. Note you can't see...
Entered root password
Verified password
Set up users and passwords|
More confusion. What non-administrative duties do I do instead of root? So I
get to use the "sudo" command by default?
Entered my full name
Set upsers and passwords|
Select a username for the new account....
Confusioning again. Didn't I just give it my name? Ok. Should be 'this is
the short name used by the system for logins, etc. You can change it to
something else.' Give the parameters.
Selected default
Entered the password.
Verified password.
I just noticed that all the headings are the same in this section. |[!!] Set
up users and passwords |. I'm ignoring them. Hmmm.
configure clock |
Shouldn't this happen earlier? Like after picking your country.
The 'If the desired...' info should be after picking the time zone. It's just
a note.
Selected Pacific
Detectiong disks.... Loading additional components| Starting the partitioner
|
Partion disks |
Wording is strange here. The parentheses after disk looks like it would be a
definition, but it's more info. Do you need a definition for partioning here?
Do you not get the option to choose which disk if you do it manually? Do I
get to only review guided? You have 2 options really. Guided and Manual.
Then there should be the other LVM bits there.
Trying Guided. I usually use Manual.
Select the only disk.
I didn't know 3 choices was considered several. Should be more like 'Here are
3 partion options. If you are a new user [is this install program aimed at
new users at all? hmmm.] , or are unsure; choose the first one.' The scheme
of 'all files in one partion' doesn't need the new user info.
Picked Guided use entire disk
Asks me for the same disk. Overview with 2 parts. Looks fine, but will go
back and do separate home.
Took me back to Partition Disk in main menu. Same menus.
Chose Separate /home partion.
Almost the same as what I would do. Swap is equal to RAM? I usually do 150%
or so. I'm guessing that 3GB is enough for the whole system. Will use these
defaults for this test. Is there more under Guided partitioning? Oh, loops
back to the guided/manual screen. Go back went back to the screen I was on.
Chose Finish partitioning.
Write changes? Yes
Partitions formatting| Installing the base system|
Why is it installing 'extra packages' if this is the base install part?
Configuring Apt|
Configue the package manager|
Picked No on more scanning.
"A network mirror can be used..." The first paragraph doesn't need to be
there. The same info is in the second. The second paragraph wording is odd
to me. Didn't I just download a 600MB+ disc. Isn't the graphical desktop on
it? I know the CD is not the entire repository. The network connection should
point out that updates and more software are available with using a mirror.
Picked Yes to use a mirror.
I think it should be 'the goal _here_ is to find...'. '...close to me on the
network' Do you mean the Internet network or my home network here?
Picked US.
I thought it was going to scan for a network close to me. I still have to
pick it?
Picked the first one. ftp.us.debian.org
Proxy blank
Scanning.... Retrieving file 1 of 5..... 1 of 3......Security scan 1of4...
Select and install software|
Please wait.... Retrieving file 1 of 42. I guess the mirror worked.
Guessing that it is pulling data off the network, cause the CD is not
spinning. Preparing linux-image-3.2.0-4.... Didn't it do that already on the
base install ? More locale configuring. Must learn what goes on here. Cd
finally started spinning at 12% mark.
Configuring popularity-contest|
sounds good. I don't think I will remember that dpkg command later on. if I
said no. Maybe it should just say you can modify it later in the help.
Picked Yes
What happened to the prompt to pick contrib and non-free for the sources list?
Maybe they don't want you to leave the 100% open source land. Interesting,
but I will still install Opera manually.
More installing.
Sofware selection|
'To tune..' ?
This installer doesn't default to having a desktop? SSH server and Standard
system utilities? I thought this installer was for a desktop. Didn't the
squeeze install have that already selected? I figured 'standard system
utilities' would already be installed with the base system. So extra stuff
was installed but not the standard utilities? Odd. Must learn what is in the
standard system utilities since it's not part of the base.
Selected desktop, unselected SSH server.
Selct and install software|
Running tasksel...15% pause Retrieving file 1 of 1295. CD spinning. I
should possibly time this. CD stopped spinning and more is being retrieved.
The stuff was all loaded into RAM, or it's getting the balance from the
mirror? More learning. All 1295 files seem done at 27%, the CD is
spining,.... now installing.
Red screen! Installation step failed. What? This has never happened. The
failing step is: Select and install software. From what point? Ughhhh.
Pressed Continue. Took me to the main menu. Select and install software.
Setting up.... Upgrading software.... PLease wait...Same red screen. Try
again. Please wait... Cleaning up.... Red screen. Again. One more time.
Noticed Cleaning up... is at 10%. One more time. Nope. Ok. It's late. Try
again tomorrow. Sadness.
Check the CDs integrity. How do I save the log file to a disk that I'm going
to erase and partition? CD is ok. Oh, save to floppy. :), web, try that.
Whoa. It started it's own server. Niffty.
Ok. Logger man says that 'No space left' when extracting data at the
/usr/shar/help/gl/gnome-help/media.page stage. This happened when I played
with one of the other distros. Forgot which one. Which ever one it was did
throw the error message up that it did happen and I increased the / partition.
Well I now know that it will take more than 3GB to install wheezy CD1. The
guided partition scheme should be updated to take more space for /. Starting
over and increasing / by a gig to see what happens.
Using same steps all the way to partitioning.
Partitioning.
Selected the 3GB / and want to resize. It has to write the current partition
table before it can resize? Ok. Ummm. The normal dialog for changing a
partition size comes up. CHangeing to 4GB. Red screen! 'Size entered is too
large' . So I can shrink but not grow. My guess is since that it's the first
section it can't automatically resize the sway and /home after it. Bummer.
Will shrink /home and swap and see if I can grow /. Hmm. Now 970.6MB at the
end. Let's try to grow /. Nope. Seems to want to put everything in series.
Oh well. Back to Manual partitioning.
Went to Partition Disks in main menu and it took me back to the screen with my
4 partions. Ehhh. Ok. Back to Detect Disks. The 4 partion screen again?
The Guided partitioning took me back a step before to pick manual. Select
that. Yep. Hey now a new option. 'Guided - use the largest continuous free
space'. Nice, but going with Manual.
Partioning. Manual.
Manual should say 'for experinced users' after it. I don't think a newbie
would have a clue to what is going on.
Deleting all the partitions and using my normal scheme.
Type for new partition should say what the difference between Primary and
Logical is. Someday need to commit to memory what the diffs are. Seen the
screen to many times to go by rote. Luckily it picks Logical for the next
partition automagically.
Changed my mind. Going to try just a bit larger than RAM for swap.
Partitions:
4GB /
398.5MB swap - put 400MB in and got this. Ahh 1024 or 1000. 5.6GB /home
Same stuff for installing...
Same select desktop and unselect ssh server.
More installing...
Red Screen again? What? GGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Same 'No space left'. How big is this thing now? This time it died at
/var/cache/man/7808. Is Gnome 3 that much bigger, did they change to the new
compression scheme I read about packs more onto the disk? Grrr, grrr, grrr.
Ok. Online info search. Debian install guide says 5GB for the With Desktop
Install type. The section on D.2 Disk SPace needed for Tasks says Gnome
(default) needs 3473MB. So I add the old default of 701MB to the 3473 and get
4174. Well. Will give it another go at 5GB. Looks like LXDE and XFCE
installs are going to cross 3GB also. How did I ever get LXDE and XFCE
installed on squeeze with only 3GB. Removing openoffice and replacing with
Gnumeric and Abiword right after the install must have been it. Ramble,
ramble.
Started again. Changed to 5GB /.
Oh looky here. Now that / is 5GB the Debian desktop enviroment is selected
and so is print server. This info would have been helpful much earlier in the
install. I think the partioning should happen after you pick what you want.
I want x, y, z. Great xyz will take so much space, partion accordingly.
Unselected Print and SSH server.
AH hah. Reading squeeze requirements. Don't know why I picked 3GB in the
first place since it's requirement is 5GB. Anyway. 532 vs. 701 for the
standard install. 2018 vs. 2299 for LXDE. There is more wiggle room there.
hmmm. LX grew and XF shrunk. And on and on and on and on. Hurry up and
install before I rattle off more useless info.
Installing done... Blue screen...HD spinning like crazy....Grubby!
Grub to MBR Yes.
Installation complete. Reboot.
Log in. Working. su root du -hs / says 3.2GB. Fun. Now to send
Installation Report.
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