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Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 22 Jul 2001 14:28:57 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 22 09:28:57 2001 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from oracle.clara.net [::ffff:195.8.69.94] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15OKE5-0003to-00; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 09:28:57 -0500 Received: from [212.126.132.26] (helo=-) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.11 #5) id 15OKDw-0001Uc-00; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 15:28:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 15:28:30 +0100 From: B Boudet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Clearer instructions for driver-# floppies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.01 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package: boot-floppies Version: 2.2.23 This is a bug report against the Debian Install Manual. At the end of this message is a suggested fix. The manual is lacking in a description of how to deal with installs where the hd controller is not recognised on the initial boot and therefore the hd cannot be partitioned. This can be either because the rescue floppy does not have the necessary driver compiled in, or the user failed to enter correct boot parameters. However, a new user can be unaware this is the cause and may instead believe the driver-# floppies are required in order to load the driver as a module. It's not clear to a new user whether the setup process should prompt for the driver floppies automatically, or whether the user needs to do something to make the setup process prompt for the floppies. So the user may wonder if the problem is due to user error or a bug. After the hd is partitioned, it becomes clear, but this is no help if the hd is not accessible due to driver problems. I'm reporting this because I had trouble with my first floppy install of Debian, for which I could not find the answer in the install manual. My search of the debian-user list for recent months only found similar confusion about how to make use of driver-# floppies: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0106/msg02662.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0106/msg02685.html I think bug #96237 is related, but I'm not sure, which is why I opened a new bug. The response to that report was to RTM. Well I *have* RTFM and the problem stands. Below is a modification to the Install Manual text that I know would have helped me, and I think would help other new users too: 5.4.3. Driver Files ------------------- These files contain kernel modules, or drivers, for all kinds of hardware that are not necessary for initial booting. Getting the drivers you want is a two step process: first you identify an archive of drivers you want to use, and then you select which particular drivers you want. The driver archive floppies are not used until after the hard drive has been partitioned and the kernel has been installed. If you need a particular driver for initial booting, or to access the hard drive, choose a kernel with the necessary driver compiled in and supply the correct boot parameter arguments. Please see Section 5.2. `Choosing the Right Installation Set' and Section 6.1, `Boot Parameter Arguments'. Remember that your driver archive must be consistent with your initial kernel choice. Thanks, -Bernie Boudet. --------------------------------------- Received: (at 106201-done) by bugs.debian.org; 25 Sep 2001 19:40:32 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 25 14:40:32 2001 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from arroz.onshored.com [216.220.101.2] (postfix) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 15ly4F-0007n8-00; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from arroz.onshored.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arroz.onshored.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE3993808; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Subject: bugs closed in boot-floppies 3.0.14 Organization: onShore Development, Inc From: Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 25 Sep 2001 15:54:35 -0400 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lines: 107 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We believe the problem you reported has been closed in boot-flopppies 3.0.14. The changelog is included below. We invite you to test that new version. If your problem is still occuring, we can reopen the bug, or you can file a new one. --=20 ...Adam Di Carlo..<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...<URL:http://www.onshored.com/> boot-floppies (3.0.14) unstable; urgency=3Dlow . * Stefan Gybas - use kernel 2.4.7 on s390 - tweaked contents of s390 initrd - ignore devfs partitons in libfdisk * Gerhard Tonn - add support for IBM partition table on s390 - add support for rescue disk - .tar-place-holder file added - use kernel/modules 2.4.7 on s390 - special inittab.install for s390 added * David Kimdon - add clearer instructions for driver-# floppies from Bernie Boudet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> closes: #106201 - 2 Danish translation updates thanks to Claus Hindsgaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - update url of PC Hardware FAQ; closes: #110255 - make tftpboot images for i386; closes: #108103 - fix missing fdisk.txt; closes: #107598 - document 'Report a Problem' menu choice - Policy: do debug mode if DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS says so * Phil Blundell - use glibc 2.2.4 for arm - bump RiscPC root disks to 4200 blocks, and netwinder to 4000, so modules and i18n support will fit - include adfs.o and floppy.o on arm root disks; actually try to load the SCSI modules added back in 3.0.8 - detect revision J/K SA-110 chips; if found, advise the user that trouble may lie ahead - try to stop `images-2.88' popping up in the arm files list - arm 2.4.5 kernel doesn't seem too stable; drop back to 2.2.19 for netwinder and riscpc (shark is only supported in 2.4) - try to make arm builds work with USE_LANGUAGE_CHOOSER * Eduard Bloch: - reformated German boot message to fit on 80x25 - German translation updates - started building udma100-ext3 flavor on i386, ext3 autodetection - user query about ReiserFS v2, fs selection fixes - updated copyright year in the f10.txt files; closes: #110710 - integrated testing parted option on i386_udma-100 flavor. * Christian T. Steigies - m68k: add arch specific posttask to make amiboot and dmesg executable * Ethan Benson - Make build fail if rootimage is larger then the floppy image. - Redesign filesystem creation/mounting to cleanly, and dynamically support multiple filesystems, redo the ext3/reiserfs code. Now dbootstrap will offer a menubox list of supported filesystems. A filesystem is offered as a choice when both a) the running kernel supports it, and b) there is a mkfs for that filesystem. If only Ex= t2 is supported the behavior is exactly as its always been. - Add is_filesystem_supported() function to util.c. - Add XFS filesystem support. - Fix partition mounting so it works properly again. - Remove bogus and non-existent reiserfs partition type, reiserfs is not, and should not get its own partition type, it should use the "Linux Native" partition types that already exist on most/all architectures. The redesigned mounting code does this. - Redo fstab generation to work properly with multiple filesystems. - Moved is_fstype() function out of baseconfig.c and into util.c. Its useful elsewhere (now also used in bootconfig.c). - Quik setup aborts if root partition is not ext2. - Eliminate ioctl messages that were spewed all over the screen during kernel installation. (perror() -> ERRMSG() don't use perror() in boot-floppies!) - Check for parted correctly. - Remove ddisk and cfdisk from pmac root floppy, we don't need them and there is not sufficient space. * Richard Hirst - redirect info output from downloadpkg() to stderr, so offline_mode= =3Dtrue works again - ia64 now uses kernel 2.4.9 and libc 2.2.4 - hppa now uses kernel 2.4.9 - ia64 now uses compressed kernels - hppa: move vmlinux symlink in to /boot for palo - ia64 and hppa: add a kernel-choice section to docs - ia64 now uses mckinley-smp kernel - ia64: add efi/boot/bootia64.efi to rescue.bin - hppa: add warning about 2GB limit for /boot to PALO screen. * Adam Di Carlo: - only include reiserprogs stuff on the reiserfs flavor; this may help with the 1.2MB images - fix minor SGML build issues - integrate and rework patch from Samy PERSEHAIE, now you can set KBD in config when you build, and that still will be suppressed during installation; obviously, that is turned off by default - also from Samy PERSEHAIE, French listed as a Latin-1 language - similarly, R=FCdiger Kuhlmann pointed out German should be there too; I'm sure there are many more, I wish someone would just do a full pass over that...; closes: #112569 - synchronize, for all architectures, the keymaps we ship and the keymaps used by dbootstrap; closes: #84388, #109925 * Chris Tillman - numerous documentation fixes and updates * Marcin Owsiany - various language chooser fixes; this is reputed to work now, although the on-screen fonts are scrambled -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". 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