Dear debian-boot,

This report describes issures related to version 5.02.  It concerns the
distinction between the minimal install CD (containing enough to download a
base system) and the typical install CD (containing enough to install a base
system).  I found a case where their behavior differs in the sense that one
works and the other does not.

I have successfully used both CD images.  But when I set up a local mirror
using apt-mirror, the minimal CD dislikes the mirror and refuses to use it,
while the typical CD works fine on the same target machine.

I have installed a variety of machines from the local mirror so it appears
to be working correctly.  It is in regular use and handles upgeades as well
as installs, so the fact that one install uses a larger set of packages that
the other is probably not the problem.

It is possible that this is a problem with apt-mirror, but it appears to me
that even if the problem lies with apt-mirror the fact that the two
installation CDs react differently probably indicates that one of them is
wrong (i.e., broken).

One of the frustrating aspects of the failure for the user is the vagueness
of the error message.  It claims that the problem is either the inability to
reach the mirror or invalid packages.  I suggest that it would be beneficial
to produce a message describing the actual problem rather than suggesting
potential problems. After all it could be a bad cpu, motherboard, ram, power
supply, CD, CD drive, or disk drive,  but mentioning those possible problems
would send the user off on a long wild goose chase that would almost
certainly be a dead end -- just like mentining corrupt packages if the
mirror is inaccessible or mentioning access problems if packages are
corrupt.

And fixing an access problem is quite orthogonal to fixing a package
corruption problem.  A beginner might be able to handle the former, but
would certainly be daunted by the latter.

If necessary I can provide voluminous details related to the issue, but it
seems to me that it is fairly simple to reproduce by running apt-mirror and
trying the minimal installation CD against the result.

FWIW,

Lee Winter
NP Engineering
Nashua, New Hampshire

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