FWIW, I have made some test with GRUB, non compiling functions that are not necessery for booting (but I have kept all the fs support, all the kinds of booting options). The result is a 67428 bytes `stage2' (the real grub in fact), + 512 octets (the first sector). We do not need the *stage1_5 on a floppy, and don't need absolutely these for an installation on disk. Using this stage2 for installing it as the bootloader for the fresh installation needs raw copying stage1 at a well defined place, and patching the stage2 with the correct information (the tools are here for that with Busybox I think). And one can think of a kind of incremental installation : Installation from the floppy. Reboot via the "stripped" GRUB installed. By default, an entry is booted which reinstalls an extended GRUB, and reboot with the Debian GNU/Linux system as a default (via the use of savedefault function). Do you think that it is worth working on that for the use of GRUB+ extended floppy format (1820 Ko) ? -- Thierry LARONDE, Centre de Ressources Informatiques, Archamps - France http://www.cri74.org PingOO, serveur de com sur distribution GNU/Linux: http://www.pingoo.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]