Well I have something interesting to show. It's just a demo system, not a complete system yet (it uses libc and some shell commands from the real Debian system), but I have a retriever controller[1], a very simple retriever[2], the main menu, and udpkg, all working together. If you grab http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/debian-installer/demo1.tar.gz, and unpack it there's a little demo system in there. Cd to into the demo directory and run: PATH=usr/bin:$PATH PERL5LIB='.' debconf-loadtemplate var/lib/dpkg/info/*.templates PERL5LIB='.' DEBIAN_FRONTEND=dialog \ /usr/share/debconf/frontend usr/bin/main-menu You'll see the main menu, though there are only two menu items[3] on it -- pick "Finish setting up the Debian installer". This will make the file retreiver be used to get a Packages file and parse it and install all the .udeb's in it. The Packages and udebs are located in the debs/ directory, which imulates a CD rom drive or something that we have already mounted (this is just a demo ;-). There are just two packages in the Packages file, ethdetect and sndetect. Ethdetect registers itself on the menu, so you immediatly get another menu with ethdetect added to it. And if you look at the ./var/lib/dpkg/status file before and after, you can see the packages get installed. The demo system was created by simply unpacking four udebs. Then I had to add some hacks involving debconf. Those hacks should go away in the next few days, since Randolph Chung has almost gotten cdebconf into a usable state. At that point, we'll be at the milestone of having all the key tools that form the core of the new installer written and working together. I hope this helps show how the core system fits together. You can build more udebs and install them into the system with the udpkg command: joey@kite:~/tmp/demo>udpkg -i debs/memdetect_0.0.5_i386.udeb (Reading database...) (Updating database...) So if you want to experiment with building udebs that implement menu entries, you can do that now and test them in this demo system. Of course, this is only a demo. It depends on the debian system you unpack it on for debconf, a shell, and lots of other stuff. I hope to morph it into a self-contained chrooted system fairly quickly though. -- see shy jo [1] I've named it anna -- anna's not nearly apt (but it'll do). [2] Equivilant of apt's file:/ method; 5 lines of shell script. [3] Only one of them does anything, but if I just had one menu item, deconf would optimize it away, so I threw in a second dummy item. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]