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Package: [debian cdroms]
Version: 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary

Package: [boot disks]
Version: 2.2.16-2000-07-14

Booting a broken system from cd and using the ram disk resident kernel is a 
wonderful thing for repair work - e.g. when i tried to upgrade to 2.2 last 
days but my 2.1 config was too broken so that the whole system dies of an ext2 
fatal error.

However, i have been missing a working "tar" binary for moving my partitions 
around and making space for a scratch installation. The small tar in the 
distribution cannot "c"reate archive, but this is definitely useful for
        tar cf - * | (cd /some/where; tar xvfpB -)

Since gtar is quite large when linked statically, I suggest building some 
additional folder on the archive cds with some tools like this - all without 
library dependencies, gettext support and such fancy things, but maybe with 
preformatted manpages.

What I suggested to put there else? Hmm, I am not quite aware what there is 
already in the basic system, maybe mostly the fileutils, diffutils+patch 
packages, ldd, fsck.ext2, (u)mount.

Congratulations to an ever so stable distribution
Karsten


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> Booting a broken system from cd and using the ram disk resident kernel is a 
> wonderful thing for repair work - e.g. when i tried to upgrade to 2.2 last 
> days but my 2.1 config was too broken so that the whole system dies of an ext2 
> fatal error.

> However, i have been missing a working "tar" binary for moving my partitions 
> around and making space for a scratch installation. The small tar in the 
> distribution cannot "c"reate archive, but this is definitely useful for
>         tar cf - * | (cd /some/where; tar xvfpB -)

> Since gtar is quite large when linked statically, I suggest building some 
> additional folder on the archive cds with some tools like this - all without 
> library dependencies, gettext support and such fancy things, but maybe with 
> preformatted manpages.

> What I suggested to put there else? Hmm, I am not quite aware what there is 
> already in the basic system, maybe mostly the fileutils, diffutils+patch 
> packages, ldd, fsck.ext2, (u)mount.


cpio, afio, bash, and many others, in fact.  However, none of this is
in the cards for the boot-floppies.  It's primarily an install system
and only coincidentally a rescue system. 

If you want a more full rescue system I suggest the infinitely better
Tom's Boot disk or other such single floppy "distributions".

It's a good idea, but it's just not in the cards for this package.

-- 
.....Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]<URL:http://www.onShore.com/>


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