On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:52:35AM -0700, Jack Wilborn wrote: > I think you have hit it closely. I like my Dreamplug and hope to go onto > more different types of hardware, but it seems everyone of the platforms > have proprietary hardware of "intellectual property" associated with the > device. Until we can get manufacturers to build these with open hardware, > we will have problems getting the complete box to work properly. That's > the biggest rub for not going with Linux is some things just don't work out > of the box, because of this. Of course Debian doesn't want if if we don't > have open source, which I understand. But it takes us to complain, and > loudly, to try and shift the manufacturers to our side. > > Another problem is that I would like to be able to run these plug computers > on towers outside. Here in the Arizona desert it easily goes above 115 > deg. With a top of 122 one year, so I'd like to be able to purchase > equipment that would survive here without having to build an air > conditioned box for it and lose the possibility of running it off solar. > They make some very wide ranged (temp wise) computers such as vehicle > types, which live under a hood anywhere on earth, that's what we need. > IMHO...
The equipment we make where I work easily handles that, but the prices are something very different than the plug computers. They are mainly sold to power companies and transportation infrastructure. Our specs are -40 to +85C (-40 to +185F) without fans. But for a box with similar performance to a $100 plug computer, you are probably looking at $3000. There just isn't any way to get large volumes on such stuff because it costs too much extra and most people don't need it, so it is always a niche market. > Personal experience... > > I purchase a G5 around 2005, and in a couple of years Apple changed to an > Intel processor, then I was no longer supported. Over a decade after the > wifi hardware came out, it was still proprietary and I couldn't use the > wifi for my box, which meant no Internet access. And since my 'hot spot' > was an Apple iPhone, I couldn't use the USB connection either (kernel Oops > occurred). > > I am for and would sign up for a newsletter. Is there a possibility to > have it be somehow selective as to what gets distributed? Who would be writing such a newsletter? -- Len Sorensn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130723144936.gc11...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
