Wookey a écrit : > On 2007-05-08 12:05 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> The ARM port is getting bad [1], the percentage of packages built >> staying a bit more than 90% for 2 weeks. Also this is confirmed by a >> message on #debian-arm this morning: >> >> 09:30 < doko> please could somebody care about the python2.4, python2.5, >> binutils, gcc-4.1 and gcj-4.1 builds for arm? for gcj-4.1, please see >> the instructions posted on debian-ports/debian-gcc >> >> gcj-4.1 has to be bootstrapped manually (after python is installable >> again), but all other packages have not been built on ARM. They are >> blocked by python being uninstallable, but python2.4 is on position 115! >> in the list of packages to build. >> >> The problems mainly comes from the build daemons. Only *3 out of 7* are >> building packages, and one of the three is also building stable-security >> from time to time. >> >> Here are the states and reasons I have been able to found on the web and >> on IRC: >> - grieg: up, building packages >> - cats: up, building packages >> - tofee: up, building packages, sometimes stable-security. >> - smackdown: down, waiting for a 2.6 kernel >> - elara: down, waiting for bug#421037 >> - europa: down, waiting for bug#421037 >> - netwinder: down, waiting for bug#421037, but seems to be unaffected >> by this bug >> >> Note that the bug#421037 may be due to a too old kernel, but the glibc >> maintainers are lacking information. > > I tried to reproduce this on my netwinder but it simply didn't happen > here. > >> The situation is lasting for some time now, and I see no sign that it >> will change soon. If the person in charge of the ARM build daemons is >> short on time (which I can understand, life is life), why not delegate a >> person to fix this problem? > > I would love to see Aurelien added to the arm buildd team - he has > shown significant activity and interest in this over the last year, > and clearly knows what is going on. > >> Also the build power has always been tight on this architecture, so even >> if they are all restarted today, it would take weeks to get back to a >> normal state. >> >> I think it is time to changes things. Our faster build daemons have a >> 233MHz CPU with 256MB of RAM, while there are way faster ARM CPU today. >> >> Quoting our new DPL's platform: >> >> "So we still have that money, and I would like to use it at least to >> fix our broken hardware." >> >> What about buying new ARM hardware with that money? > > I'm not sure money is the issue - it appears to be DSA set-up time. > New hardware has been offered, many months ago, and is there, ready, > online, but (so far as I can tell) it has not been brought into use by > the people with the power to do it (DSA and arm build-admin). > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2006/11/msg00008.html > > I don't know who is waiting for what, at this stage. There was some > activity on this in mid-Feb when Elmo and Bill exchanged mail via me, > after discovering that elmo's mail to bill was getting eaten somewhere > along the way (which obviously doesn't help). They arranged to meet on > IRC to get things sorted out.
That's why I proposed to replace the current machines by new ones. The local admin can just take the old disk (or copy the system if the disk format is different) and install a kernel for the new subarch. That does not change the IP, the account, the SSH keys, etc., so there is nothing to ask to DSA or whoever. > I can also offer a reasonably fast build machine, but there didn't > seem much point until Bills was put into use. > > So, yes - lets get fatrer hardware - it is now available, but until we > can work out why we have been unable to bring hedges into use in > nearly 6 months, and fix that problem, then money for hardware will > not help. > > Bill, elmo - what happened after emails in feb? What are we waiting > for now? Can anyone on this list help? > If elmo is too busy (something that happens to everybody and that I understand, life is life), why can't this be done by somebody else? Don't say me elmo is not the only person able to setup a build daemon. Bye, Aurelien -- .''`. Aurelien Jarno | GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 : :' : Debian developer | Electrical Engineer `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- people.debian.org/~aurel32 | www.aurel32.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]