On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 11:21:52AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060828 20:14]: > > hppa and ia64 are only temporarily bad, but arm has shown these problems for > > some time now. One of the most troublesome packages is xulrunner, as > > quite a few packages (build-)depend on it. It is yet unknown what the > > problem > > is, if e.g. a longer build timeout might help, or what else is required.
> Unfortunatly, xulrunner is still not fixed yet. > Another package which caught my attention is arts, please see > http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=arts&ver=1.5.4-1&arch=arm&stamp=1156962832&file=log&as=raw > This blocks currently not only arts, but also kdegames. So arts is happily fixed now; gcj-4.1 is not, due to 387875 which showed up once the new gcj-4.1 was installed in the archive and started being used for building packages. Here is the list of arm-only problems I know about that currently keep arm from catching up / making headway against the list of unbuilt packages: - sablevm-classlib: buildd timeout, needs timing info before give-back - qdbm: needs up-to-date sablevm-classlib to build - gcj-4.1: 387875 - ecj-bootstrap: needs fixed gij-4.1 - kaffe: needs to be retried with a current ecj (not built since 2003?) [...] - gjdoc: needs fixed gij-4.1 - xulrunner: needs current gjdoc, *and* needs timing info - epiphany-browser: needs up-to-date xulrunner - totem: needs up-to-date xulrunner - gnome-python-extras: needs up-to-date totem - democracyplayer: needs up-to-date gnome-python-extras - evolution-data-server: needs up-to-date xulrunner - evolution: needs up-to-date e-d-s [...] - trang: needs fixed gij-4.1 - postgresql-pljava: needs fixed gij-4.1 [...] - gnuradio-core: needs timing info - firefox: needs timing info So a lot of java-heavy stuff; unfortunately, even if you don't ever plan to run java on arm, you can see that there are now quite a few packages that have java in their build-dep chains. A number of previously out-of-date arm binaries have now been removed from unstable, which helps for gradually clearing uninstallables/out-of-date packages out from testing, but doesn't do much to help arm get a consistent package set for release; and there are also still the arm packages uninstallable in testing, listed at <http://ftp-master.debian.org/~aba/test-issues/current>. Porters, please work on these issues (and the others listed at http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?a=arm!). As things stand now, it does not seem likely that arm can be released with etch on the same terms as the other archs, with large swaths of desktop and/or java packages unavailable for arm. If it's the consensus of the ARM team that these packages aren't a useful target for the architecture, then perhaps it would be better for the arm and m68k porters to work together to identify a subset of the archive that's appropriate for embedded systems, instead of struggling with and failing to meet the current standards? Hmm, then again, one of the 28 arm uninstallables in testing right now is "contacts", which seems explicitly targetted for arm systems, but is deep in the java chain listed above... :/ -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]