Hi, Thanks! :) It's better in my native-language ^^ Now espeak speaks as I want. I'll see for voxin. It's a pitty not finding the connector. :( I will see. Thanks!
Regards, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 13:07 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > Hi. Forgot, you set the default language for espeakup by editing > /etc/default/espeakup. > Before espeakup, software speech was handled by speech-dispatcher and an app > called speechd-up. The speech-dispatcher developers are hostile to speakup > use so speechd-up is no longer maintained. In it's current state, > speech-dispatcher no longer works system wide. > At least, I can't get the current release to run system wide or even as a > user. Fortunately, Debian still shipps gnome-speech so > I can still use orca. If you are running the Lenny speech-dispatcher > package, you still can > run speech-dispatcher system wide. It is only broken starting with version > 0.7. > > Running speech-dispatcher system wide along with speechd-up is needed to use > software speech with speakup and speech-dispatcher. > There is a speech-dispatcher output module for voxin. In the distant past, > someone wrote a direct connector that would let you run > speakup with voxin without needing speech-dispatcher, but it isn't maintained > and I don't even know where you could find the source. > You might ask the voxin folks about it. > Because gnome-speech is very gnome specific, no one has even tried to use it > for anything outside of Gnome. > > Kenny > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 06:41:43PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I had not really understood module was built directly in the kernel. I > > have it :) Very very cool Debian. > > > > I'll load it. I'll try espeakup but I'd like to try voxin too: I read > > that was linked to speech-dispatcher, don't understand the relationship > > between speech-dispatcher and speakup. Is there a tuto to explain > > installing voxin to work with speakup? If I could use only gnome-speech > > it'd be still better. If I need speech-dispatcher, how can I invoke it > > for speakup? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > > > > Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 10:38 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > > > Hi. No, you would add speakup_soft to /etc/modules > > > You will need to install the espeakup package as well. > > > This will cause the system to boot up with software speech. You will > > > need to press keypad enter > > > when speech starts if your system boots to a gdm login. If you don't, > > > you will end up with a lot of speech output you might not want to hear. > > > > > > On my Sid/Squeeze box, the speakup modules are in > > > /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup > > > If your backported kernel doesn't have them, you could probably build > > > them by installing the speakup-source package from Squeeze. > > > > > > One advantage to speakup for me is cost. A hardware synth costs 1/10 the > > > price of a braille display. > > > Speakup will work fine along with brltty as long as the hardware is on > > > different ports. > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:48:38PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Thanks for these very good explanations which help me understand better > > > > things, as reading user guide online didn't help me about this. In my > > > > case, as for many users I think, I don't have any hardware synthetiser. > > > > So I have to use a soft solution. Not too problematic if it starts after > > > > cfdisk. So 3 questions: > > > > 1. Does it mean I've to do espeak.synth=name of the soft (or soft is an > > > > option)? e.g. speakup.synth=espeak? If yes, how can I configure this on > > > > a Debian (on line "kernel" in menu.lst (grub 0.97)? > > > > 2. You said that espeak is supported. What about other soft such as > > > > voxin (viavoice)? What soft synthetisers supported currently? > > > > 3. What are kernel modules for (if I use soft solution)? Do I need? I > > > > read that only modules for linux 2.6.26 are available (aptitude search > > > > on lenny, squeeze and sid). I use a 2.6.32 backported kernel. What about > > > > compatibility? > > > > > > > > Thanks for these answers. I really hope to understand and test because > > > > I'm sure it can be an alternate for emacspeak or emacs-el I don't like > > > > very much,, not suitable for any user I think. Besides very useful as > > > > you say to debug gnome crashes... (I do this in braille, but a > > > > synthetiser solution is good for others). > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 08:05 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > > > > > Hi. The idea is to get access to the system as early as possible > > > > > during boot. > > > > > To do this, speakup is a set of kernel modules. Since software > > > > > speech is a recent addition, and speakup is active before audio has > > > > > been configured, most users use a hardware synth for early access. > > > > > In this context, drivers are the modules that support a specific > > > > > hardware synth. > > > > > Currently, my system boots with speakup using an Accent SA attached > > > > > to com1. This allows me to have access to the fsck process if it > > > > > runs. > > > > > If I chose to use the software synth driver and espeakup instead, I > > > > > wouldn't get access to the system until after the fsck. > > > > > > > > > > I believe the Squeeze installer will have support for software > > > > > speech, but haven't seen any recent updates on the status. > > > > > Because I own a hardware synth, speakup has allowed me to install > > > > > Debian independently since I first started using Linux. > > > > > It also allows me to debug Gnome crashes as long as I can attach to > > > > > the process from a text console. > > > > > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:52:27PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I will look at this website again. Last time I had started fastly > > > > > > then > > > > > > let the questions, because I had not understood the global idea. The > > > > > > explanations confused me, especially about drivers. But I could try > > > > > > again (with a bit more time). That's why waiting for finding more > > > > > > understandable info for me, I asked how happent a test as someone > > > > > > tried. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 04:47 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > > > > > > > Hi. Have you visited linux-speakup.org? That is the official > > > > > > > web site for speakup. > > > > > > > Most of your questions should be answered there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:08:24AM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sam, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you know I attend to promote linux as accessibility tool. > > > > > > > > That's why > > > > > > > > I try some solutions, even these I don't use myself daily > > > > > > > > (speech in > > > > > > > > particular). That's also why I tried gnome-orca 2.30 even if I > > > > > > > > had to > > > > > > > > install testing package on my stable (Gnome 2.22) and I suspect > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > causes issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've wanted to test speakup for a long time but never > > > > > > > > understood how it > > > > > > > > works. As you tested, can you explain to me what has to be > > > > > > > > entered. > > > > > > > > speakup is included, for example, in LFS livecd and Debian, > > > > > > > > seems the > > > > > > > > only solution in such contexts. I heard of drivers... but what > > > > > > > > drivers? > > > > > > > > How can I know those supported? Is there a relationship with > > > > > > > > kernel as I > > > > > > > > see in this treead (LFS livecd has an older kernel (2008))? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, do you have a tutorial about this point to know what > > > > > > > > I've to > > > > > > > > enter, what are available drivers, what's the role of the > > > > > > > > kernel's > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 03:11 +0200, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben Hutchings, le Tue 24 Aug 2010 00:35:03 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > [Please include debian-kernel or me in replies; I'm not > > > > > > > > > > subscribed to > > > > > > > > > > -accessibility.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't seen any bug reports regarding speakup drivers > > > > > > > > > > included in the > > > > > > > > > > Linux 2.6.32 kernel packages or testing versions of the > > > > > > > > > > installer. > > > > > > > > > > However I haven't seen any positive reports either. Are > > > > > > > > > > they working > > > > > > > > > > properly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've tried the daily build yesterday, and it worked just fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Samuel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > > > > > > > > debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org > > > > > > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > > > > > > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > > > > > > > Archive: > > > > > > > > http://lists.debian.org/1282615704.27264.55.ca...@debian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1282674203.2871.35.ca...@debian
