Hi, I had not really understood module was built directly in the kernel. I have it :) Very very cool Debian.
I'll load it. I'll try espeakup but I'd like to try voxin too: I read that was linked to speech-dispatcher, don't understand the relationship between speech-dispatcher and speakup. Is there a tuto to explain installing voxin to work with speakup? If I could use only gnome-speech it'd be still better. If I need speech-dispatcher, how can I invoke it for speakup? Thanks, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 10:38 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > Hi. No, you would add speakup_soft to /etc/modules > You will need to install the espeakup package as well. > This will cause the system to boot up with software speech. You will need to > press keypad enter > when speech starts if your system boots to a gdm login. If you don't, you > will end up with a lot of speech output you might not want to hear. > > On my Sid/Squeeze box, the speakup modules are in > /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup > If your backported kernel doesn't have them, you could probably build them by > installing the speakup-source package from Squeeze. > > One advantage to speakup for me is cost. A hardware synth costs 1/10 the > price of a braille display. > Speakup will work fine along with brltty as long as the hardware is on > different ports. > > Kenny > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:48:38PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for these very good explanations which help me understand better > > things, as reading user guide online didn't help me about this. In my > > case, as for many users I think, I don't have any hardware synthetiser. > > So I have to use a soft solution. Not too problematic if it starts after > > cfdisk. So 3 questions: > > 1. Does it mean I've to do espeak.synth=name of the soft (or soft is an > > option)? e.g. speakup.synth=espeak? If yes, how can I configure this on > > a Debian (on line "kernel" in menu.lst (grub 0.97)? > > 2. You said that espeak is supported. What about other soft such as > > voxin (viavoice)? What soft synthetisers supported currently? > > 3. What are kernel modules for (if I use soft solution)? Do I need? I > > read that only modules for linux 2.6.26 are available (aptitude search > > on lenny, squeeze and sid). I use a 2.6.32 backported kernel. What about > > compatibility? > > > > Thanks for these answers. I really hope to understand and test because > > I'm sure it can be an alternate for emacspeak or emacs-el I don't like > > very much,, not suitable for any user I think. Besides very useful as > > you say to debug gnome crashes... (I do this in braille, but a > > synthetiser solution is good for others). > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > > > > Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 08:05 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > > > Hi. The idea is to get access to the system as early as possible during > > > boot. > > > To do this, speakup is a set of kernel modules. Since software speech is > > > a recent addition, and speakup is active before audio has > > > been configured, most users use a hardware synth for early access. In > > > this context, drivers are the modules that support a specific hardware > > > synth. > > > Currently, my system boots with speakup using an Accent SA attached to > > > com1. This allows me to have access to the fsck process if it runs. > > > If I chose to use the software synth driver and espeakup instead, I > > > wouldn't get access to the system until after the fsck. > > > > > > I believe the Squeeze installer will have support for software speech, > > > but haven't seen any recent updates on the status. > > > Because I own a hardware synth, speakup has allowed me to install Debian > > > independently since I first started using Linux. > > > It also allows me to debug Gnome crashes as long as I can attach to the > > > process from a text console. > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:52:27PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I will look at this website again. Last time I had started fastly then > > > > let the questions, because I had not understood the global idea. The > > > > explanations confused me, especially about drivers. But I could try > > > > again (with a bit more time). That's why waiting for finding more > > > > understandable info for me, I asked how happent a test as someone tried. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 04:47 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit : > > > > > Hi. Have you visited linux-speakup.org? That is the official web > > > > > site for speakup. > > > > > Most of your questions should be answered there. > > > > > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:08:24AM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sam, > > > > > > > > > > > > As you know I attend to promote linux as accessibility tool. That's > > > > > > why > > > > > > I try some solutions, even these I don't use myself daily (speech in > > > > > > particular). That's also why I tried gnome-orca 2.30 even if I had > > > > > > to > > > > > > install testing package on my stable (Gnome 2.22) and I suspect it > > > > > > causes issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've wanted to test speakup for a long time but never understood > > > > > > how it > > > > > > works. As you tested, can you explain to me what has to be entered. > > > > > > speakup is included, for example, in LFS livecd and Debian, seems > > > > > > the > > > > > > only solution in such contexts. I heard of drivers... but what > > > > > > drivers? > > > > > > How can I know those supported? Is there a relationship with kernel > > > > > > as I > > > > > > see in this treead (LFS livecd has an older kernel (2008))? > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, do you have a tutorial about this point to know what I've > > > > > > to > > > > > > enter, what are available drivers, what's the role of the kernel's > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 03:11 +0200, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben Hutchings, le Tue 24 Aug 2010 00:35:03 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > > > > [Please include debian-kernel or me in replies; I'm not > > > > > > > > subscribed to > > > > > > > > -accessibility.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't seen any bug reports regarding speakup drivers > > > > > > > > included in the > > > > > > > > Linux 2.6.32 kernel packages or testing versions of the > > > > > > > > installer. > > > > > > > > However I haven't seen any positive reports either. Are they > > > > > > > > working > > > > > > > > properly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've tried the daily build yesterday, and it worked just fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Samuel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > > > > > > debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org > > > > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > > > > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > > > > > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1282615704.27264.55.ca...@debian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1282668103.2871.22.ca...@debian
