On Thursday 17 July 2008, Daniel Dalton wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:32:00PM +0200, Christian Schoepplein wrote: > > For example a beep is generated everytime gdm gets started during the > > bootup of a machine. I do not know anyone who would complain of that > > Very good point, so why isn't that annoying? So surely gdm logins would > be ran more than installers, and if the gdm log in is not an issue, > well, why would the installation be?
If it does that by default (which I'm not sure of) I would find that very annoying. I'm a KDE user myself and luckily KDM does not do something as silly as that. Also, a quick google ("gdm beep") gave me this: http://osdir.com/ml/linux.redhat.rhl.general/2003-11/msg02026.html http://error.wordpress.com/2005/11/03/gdm-please-dont-beep-at-login/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/%2Bsource/gdm/%2Bbug/131126 http://markmail.org/message/5ecwfmnzovmqw63t and tons more... I have absolutely no problem with such features being available as accessibility *options*, but having them enabled by default is just dumb. Should we also all have huge fonts enabled by default and default high contrast themes so that visually impaired users can read things immediately after install? I'm sorry folks, I have a lot of respect for the extra effort needed every day to deal with life if you have a disability (of whatever form), but you cannot expect the world to always change things to fit your needs. For the installer there is always the option of having a custom accessibility version which has every convenience you can think of enabled by default. I know that that also has its downsides, but Debian does make that relatively easy. That option may have to be considered anyway for speakup support (in that case it is image size considerations), but that discussion has not yet really started. For a version of the installer with full speech synthesis support, a custom image would probably be the _only_ option. Cheers, FJP
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