On Wed, 17 Mar 2010, John Klos wrote: > > I built a cross compiler with patched sid source packages because the > > patches aren't in sid. The exception is sid binutils which has support > > for NPTL/TLS on m68k. > > > > If you want the patches that I use, I can send links. I suggest, first > > you should read up on the gory details (in the archives of this > > mailing list). > > I've been reading... Would it help to have a public CVS tree so that > others can easily access a pre-patched set of sources?
That depends on what people want them for. The latest patches are found at, http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc-ports.git;a=summary http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=summary http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/geert/linux-m68k.git;a=summary If you want patches against sid packages, I did upload some, but they are obsolete now. More backporting is required. (I guess that's what happens if you don't wait for the upstream release.) > > > Right. It is also found on the debian ISO's, along with everything > > else you need. > > > > I don't know where the etch-m68k installer ISO's went. I'll rip it and > > upload it if they can't be located. > > I suppose my little rant about the URLs just illustrates the fact that > we need a working URL. If there was a working URL, people might expect "etch-m68k" to work like "etch". The debian project kicked out the m68k architecture from the release process before Debian 4 "etch" was officially released. So "etch-m68k" is not really etch, and is not actually supported. The last official debian m68k distro was Debian 3.1 "sarge". Though an official release, it is about 5 years obsolete, and not much good for the kind of development work that you alluded to. > I'd be happy to host that ISO. > > > You need a bootloader (penguin is a good start), kernel (and perhaps > > initrd), and an installer ISO. > > > > If your kernel lacks the modules needed for installation, you'll also > > need the initrd that belongs with that kernel (both are found on the > > ISO). > > So in order to bootstrap you need three or four parts, if I am to > understand this correctly: you need a kernel, you need an initrd22.gz > file (or the like) which is configured with modules for supporting the > boot method, and you need a ramdisk image. The "rd" in "initrd" means ramdisk. You may not need one if you have the necessary modules built into your kernel. > Depending on the boot method, you'd then install over the Internet > (which I assume won't work for m68k etch) or the magic ISO you mention > above. The ISO that I used is the "netinst" ISO, which installs packages from the net. The download is called debian-etch-m68k-m68k-netinst.iso and is found at http://people.debian.org/~smarenka/d-i/m68k/cds/ I downloaded mine in October 2008. You might want to try a newer one, or I can send mine (it has minor issues). If your quadra has a CDROM drive, burn the ISO to a CD-R (not RW), slowly. If it doesn't, there are other ways. These ISOs require that you boot with kernel arguments "suite=etch-m68k modules=etch-support" If you use the kernel and initrd from the ISO, this should be sufficient. When I did this, I used my own kernel build instead of the kernel and initrd on the CD. If I recall correctly, I added "root=/dev/sr0" to the kernel command line. (Sorry I can't confirm this right now.) > Part of the reason it has been so confusing is because I can't find > these files. I'm sure the ISO will help tremendously. > > > The kernel downloads I linked to in my previous messages should work > > (without initrd) since that's how I installed etch. If it doesn't work > > for you, I'll add any missing modules. > > I've downloaded several kernels for m68k Mac and tried booting them. > They all panic after not being able to find the filesystem image > regardless of what I select in the Penguin booter. The kernel will panic if there's no root filesystem. I guess you don't have an initrd or root filesystem yet, so this is to be expected. > > > Have you ever tried a debian installation? If so, which of the many > > methods did you use? > > The last time I installed any GNU/Linux on m68k was back in the mid > 1990s. I used a bucketload of low density Amiga floppy disks. I wasn't asking about m68k but debian of any kind. (Even a text mode Ubuntu install would give you an idea of the process.) > > > > For instance, here's how you install NetBSD: > > > > Read a debian etch install manual and you'll get some idea of the > > process. It isn't the same as NetBSD. > > No; I was just using the mini-NetBSD how-to as an example of giving > someone with some Unix experience enough information to get started. I'm > kinda getting there with Debian. "etch-m68k" was never an official release, as I mentioned, so the installation guide might not be everything you'd expect. http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/m68k/ Finn > > Thanks! > > John > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-68k-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.osx.2.00.1003171547350....@localhost
