On 5/29/07, Finn Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2007, Brian Morris wrote: > On 5/27/07, Finn Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 26 May 2007, Joel Ewy wrote: > > > > > Hmm. As I recall, there is another layout (or was in XFree86 4.x) > > > for the Mac called something like "macintosh_old". I believe this > > > was for the older, small ADB keyboards that didn't have Function > > > keys. It sounds like you're using a full-sized keyboard, but it > > > might tell us something if you try out the other layout. > > > > I think macintosh_old is for old kernels (or newer kernels that have > > been configured to send ADB keycodes -- but I've never seen one, since > > powerpc and m68k switched to linux keycodes years ago). > > actually, no, we just switched. Sure you just switched, but others have been running 2.6 on m68k macs for years.
certainly not anywhere near production levels. the 2.6 kernels I got from you all have only become useable in the last six months. and only really useable since your last patch, that was not to hang my q630 at shutdown. (thanks). i do realize though that it takes years to develop the kernels and you all kernel hackers have been working hard for a while. despite all that there has to be a reasonably useably system that people are willing to upgrade to, that most of the users of sarge would. it could be that almost now. I have been a half time unix admin in the past and it was something of a testing research environment where my own career had eventually suffered to the point where i had to give it up. My point is that although I am willing to help up to a point, that is, I hope that others can/will pick up the new system too. Particularly people who are interested in applications which can be conservative in their use of resources (or application environments). I think of quadra as sort of a baseline. we had sun and next machines going well that were useful (actually the web was born in December 1990 on the next) in the early 90s that were about as modern as we see today. Although it seems amazing that these old macs work, actually it is reasonable that they should, it is the new machines that as actually supercomputers are underperforming (in some ways).
AFAIK, ADB keycodes were deprecated around 2.4 by those Debian packages that care about the console. And for ADB, naturally m68k follows in the powermac footsteps.
So, you think that the X keyboard and the console are completely unconnected ? I thought about put back the old mac consolekeymap. I could start X from ssh login and see if the old mac X keymap then works.
> whoops, looks you guys beat me to it. both finn's 20 and christians 21 > have > > CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES=y That's because I used the debian config for that kernel. I build smaller kernels for myself, and I don't enable CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES. It doesn't do anything in 2.6.x. It should be removed from Kconfig. > i should try booting with kernel option keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 The 2.6.x kernel doesn't use that either (I don't know if userspace does anything with it).
well heres another puzzle: there is a support script in /usr/share/console which is supposed to pick the good console keymap. however for 68k it needs to read Model: Macintosh out of /proc/hardware, which exists but is empty. there fore I assume that debconf or whatever installation / upgrade / reinstallation will not pick the keymap correctly. since /proc is not regular file you cannot change its contents, unless you know how it is set up ( I don't) ?
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