On 08/23/2014 08:02 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi <c...@debian.org> [2014-08-23 09:52 -0700]:
>> - it seems to requires/encourage big local teams (so no new
>> countries/continents)
>
> How so? Each BidTeam can consist of one person, or 10. It is the job
> of the advisory board to constitute the DebConfN team out of that.
> So if the BidTeam is big, that'll be fine. If the bid team is very
> small but they won the bid, then more global people or remote
> volunteers will need to help.
>
>> - IMHO will demotivate regular organisers/volunteers
>
> How so?
(answering both "How so?")
I'm on the global part of the -team, so I see a lot of work done every year,
which is not very linked to local stuffs (talks, registration, visa,
bursaries, schedule, video, admin, rooms, etc., and a lot of micro-tasks),
and this is done by many global people. What we should tell them (and me)?
"We don't need you this year, but be ready for next year (but maybe we will
not need you)"
Do you think that 18 months before DC you can really sort who will do stuffs
after 12 months?
And local people need advice on how many decision was token by previous
members. "Could you tell me how to calculate t-shirt number and size, meal
number per diet, how many people will cancel registration or register late,
etc., and than go away, we will do the calculation and decision ourself"
PS: and I'm not so proud of DC15 team, I see only few people active. No
local people taking experiences in visa, registration, etc, which really
help planing communication to attendees.
>> - not so flexible (in last debconfs we did a lot of
>> experimentation: DC12 without local DD, DC13 with old style
>> (sleeping bag style), DC14 without DebCamp, DC15 without a fix
>> city at bid decision.
>
> How does my proposal inhibit flexibility? If a DebConfN bid
> specifies e.g. sleeping bags and no DebCamp, and the bid is chosen,
> then that's what DCN will be like…
Probably I misunderstood your proposal. I need to think better (and possibly
to discuss with you) what is fix ("forever"), what could/should be changed
every year (structure/delegation) and what is free of constraint.
>
>> I think one of the root of the problem is the bid process: bid teams are
>> almost alone to prepare the bid (which it is also good on helping screening
>> bids/teams)
>
> Indeed. My proposal addresses this.
>
>> The bid should be simplified: the basic should be only venue,
>> accommodation, food (and a short feasibility check of the other
>> topics).
>
> Agreed. This will require less time, so we can make the bid decision
> well before February, allowing more time and more resources to be
> used on the winning bid.
>
> Really interested in hearing your answers to the above questions
> about how you think my proposal falls short.
ciao
cate
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