I just want to emphasize that although I have contributed some comments
on self-cooking, I am not arguing that it is a `magic solution' or that
it is desirable
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/SelfCooking
But I think it belongs in this discussion about food
Just to clarify the alternatives, it is not
food vs. self-cook vs. find it yourself
There are many hybrid options, e.g. at Interlaken (and potentially other
venues), breakfast can be provided at a low cost by a
hostel/accommodation provider.
For hostels/hotels that charge for breakfast, it would be interesting to
know how many people are satisfied with cereal rather than a cooked
breakfast. Just having some large cereal boxes and a fridge for milk,
some fruit, bread, etc might cover breakfast at low cost.
We could then have a self-cooked BBQ lunch, and a cooked dinner from a
catering company.
It could also vary from day-to-day - maybe have the BBQ just 2 or 3
times each week, and the catering company for other lunches.
These are just examples, not my recommendations
On 24/10/12 23:57, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> *** No/Less sponsored food ***
>
> Not providing food at all or just some meals (breakfast and/or dinner).
> This means that one or two meals per day have to be paid by the
> attendees themselves or they just don't eat that meal. This is easier
> with the Interlaken proposal as there are restaurants around where
> people can eat instead. For Le Camp this would probably mean that the Le
> Camp cooks would cook anyway but attendees would have to pay the costs
> themselves. We would have to find a way with the Le Camp staff about how
> to make this work. Worst case we would pay for everyone but only get
> money from those that actually eat the meal.
>
> On the other hand as for Le Camp all the money flows through DebConf it
> would be possible to partially sponsor the meals (say attendees pay 10%
> of the costs).
>
> Example costs for cheap restaurants in Switzerland:
> Kebab (Döner) plus Coke: ~12.-
> Coffee plus Croissant: ~6.-
> Breakfast: 10.- - 15.-
> Simple pizza plus drink: 20.-
> Normal simple meal (simple main dish, salad) with drinks (3dl mineral water
> plus coffe): 30.- to 40.-
> more sophisticated dinner with wine and two courses(no longer in a cheap
> restaurant): 60.- - 100.-
>
> Doing this might reduce the number of attendees, because some might just
> not be able to afford paying for food themselves. This in turn would
> increase our per attendee costs. Overall we could save as much as about
> 100'000.- CHF if we don't pay for any food at Le Camps prices.
>
> A variant of this is to just have Breakfast and Dinner at Le Camp and to
> have Sandwiches (ingredients provided by Le Camp, made by the attendees
> from a buffet) for Lunch. This would recude the costs by 6.- per
> attendee and day and save us 15% on the food costs. The price of 34.- is
> in the contract proposal but we did not yet ask Le Camp if they would
> agree to do this for all the days or if this is only for those days
> where we eat somewhere else (daytrip).
>
> Gaudenz
>
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