Hi Daniel, On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:14:31PM +0200, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 07/20/2011 11:03 PM, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > > For > > the record, not every travel sponsorship requestor on the herb team got > > perfect > > scores, so this wasn't theoretical. > > I'm glad to hear this! Out of curiosity, what percentage of the herb > team members that did apply for travel sponsorship did get perfect > scores? What was the percentage for applicants who weren't members of > the herb team? Can we see the average scores for herb-team members vs. > non-herb-team members?
Out of the 12 members of the herb team, only 6 requested travel assistance. Only one of the 6 requested 100% sponsorship, and the amount was relatively small. One of the 6 got a non-perfect score due to a large request (still reasonable given the geographies) and not addressing financial need in his justification. As you can see, the herb team even paid attention to each others' responses to the field in penta. Percentage of herb-team members applying for sponsorship: 50% Percentage of herb-team members applying for sponsorship who got a perfect score: ~83% Percentage of non-herb-team sponsorship applicants who got a perfect score: ~22% Average score for herb-team members who requested sponsorship: ~97 Average score for non-herb-team applicants who got some kind of full, partial, or conditional offer: ~88 Average score for all non-herb-team applicants: ~69 Average score for all non-herb-team applicants excluding a few negative results like the annual nigerian scammer attempt to get DebConf's travel help: ~72 I'm not going to tell you there isn't a numerical difference, because the numbers speak for themselves. However, given that the size of the herb team subsample (to use statistical terminology) is just 6, and given that Joerg Jaspert selected people who are more involved in Debian and/or DebConf than the average sponsorship applicant, and given that sponsorship applicants are not necessarily a representative sample of participants in Debian or DebConf, I don't think the difference implies as much as you might think. For reference, although I'm haven't clicked through each person's record to confirm this, but I think all highly involved non-herb-team applicants other than Clint both made a justification for a reasonable request and were approved for some kind of offer (I forget if any were partially/conditionally approved). That said, I would welcome ways to increase transparency in both the selection and the decisionmaking for next year. As much as I don't think anything improper went on this year, I fully support the goal of the travel sponsorship BoF to make sure everyone views future years' processes as proper, and there are enough things that need to be fixed anyway apart from conflict of interest / favoritism issues. And I remain glad Clint was able to attend despite this messy situation. - Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org P.S. - Another interesting comparison could be for someone to compare this year's herb team statistics to those from past years, in case there are any marked swings, and if so, to then see which of those swings can be explained for what reasons. I don't think I currently have the necessary access, time, or statistical skills to do this myself. _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
