El 27 de junio de 2011 11:20, Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com> escribió:

> 2011/6/27 Gunnar Wolf <gw...@gwolf.org>
>
>> Hi Leandro!
>>
>>
> Hey!
>
>
>> Thanks for this summary! Couple of points for this:
>>
>> Leandro Gómez dijo [Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 03:10:12AM -0600]:
>> > 1. General
>> > ** The Crowne Plaza Hotel will give the local team some photos and
>> videos
>> > that we can use for our presentation in Bosnia.
>>
>> Yay \o/ That's always good to motivate people to come!
>>
>> > ** The Crowne Plaza Hotel will have a free shuttle service from the
>> hotel to
>> > Zona Viva (shopping center/entertainment district).
>>
>> I don't think that's needed... Of course, people will go out, and
>> having this facility can be appreciated by many, but OTOH few people
>> go out every night, and for those nights that any one decides to go
>> out, Nicaraguan taxi fares are quite cheap and should not be a
>> hassle... And give you more freedom of deciding which time to go back,
>> and so on. Of course, I'm not opposing this idea on principle, but
>> -even if it's stated it's a free shuttle- resources are always charged
>> in some way ;-) And I'd prefer to have a freebie in some other
>> form. Going to the city can be decided by individuals without a
>> shuttle.
>>
>>
> IIRC this is a standard service they offer all their guests. But, yes, taxi
> fares are *very* cheap and we can do fine without this.
>

We're thinkin, for a cheaper service, to rent a taxi cooperative only for
the event. This mean that there'll be taxis DC12-dedicated.

>
>
>>  > ** The hotel can arrange for some tour operators to give information
>> during
>> > DebConf.
>>
>> Can we use this operators as a group aid for the daytrip? That helps a
>> lot logistics-wise.
>>
>>
> We intend to go directly to the Ministry of Tourism (INTUR) and ask for
> help. It's going to be cheaper and they have their main office (and tourist
> information center) less than 200 meters away from the venue.
>

I think it could be better to arrange with INTUR for the day-trip. They have
better preparation and we could get more sponsorship on that way.


>
>
>> > 2. Food
>> > ** Restaurante Los Continentes (at the hotel) can only accommodate 60
>> > people.
>> > ** We could have lunch at the convention center instead (buffet style) -
>> No
>> > extra charge for the additional spaces.
>>
>> Looks like a very good way out :) But I guess this will need renting
>> an additional room, or arranging for table-setting logistics..?
>>
>>
> No. They will take care of everything and it won't cost us extra.
>
>
>> > (...)
>> > ** Denis (from the DC12 team) will be the point of contact between the
>> hotel
>> > and the local team.
>> > ** Denis will present several options for "special meals".
>> > ** Denis and Raúl will work on a menu for DebConf12.
>>
>> Very good choice :) Not only is Dennis aware of all the "special food"
>> issues (he is a vegan), but he really knows his way in the kitchen ;-)
>>
>> http://gwolf.org/content/dennis-chef
>>
>>
> Yep, cooking is one of his hidden talents. :)
>
>
>> > 3. Network connectivity
>> > (…)
>>
>> \o/
>>
>> > 4. Accomodation
>> >(…)
>> > ** We don't need to pay in order to make the reservations.
>> > ** We can block a minimum quantity of rooms and upgrade (block more
>> rooms)
>> > as needed.
>> > ** Professional and sponsored atendees can make reservations via web
>> (with a
>> > DebConf code).
>>
>> Very good! Specially the availability to block more rooms as needed
>> has proven important in the past.
>>
>> > ** The hotel has two rooms ready for handicapped people.
>> > ** The hotel has ramps and elevators and all of the common areas are
>> > accesible (lobby, restaurants, business center).
>>
>> Perfect. Now, handicapped people does not only mean
>> motion-handicapped, but otherwise - Vision-impaired carries a very
>> different set of needs… I cannot really think of other disabilities a
>> hotel must be prepared for, but other people will surely give
>> examples.
>>
>>
> There was a study +20 years ago on the accesibility in the city of Managua.
> They concluded that Managua was one of the most dangerous cities for
> handicapped people. It has improved a lot since then, but we have still a
> long way to go. Public transportation is a no-no. There are ramps for
> motion-handicapped, but the sidewalks are so broken that most people ride
> their wheelchairs in the middle of the street. Same goes for the
> vision-impaired. We have only one traffic light for vision-impaired
> pedestrians in the whole city and all the natural and artificial obstacles
> (bumps and cracks on the sidewalks, open manholes without the cover, etc.)
> makes walking in Managua an extreme sport for people with disabilities.
>
> Having said that, we made sure that the venue was located in an accesible
> building. Of course, we will check and double check everything. Right now I
> can tell you that there are ramps and elevators, but no tactile/visual
> warning signs or sound devices for the vision-impaired.
>
>
>> > 5. Venue
>> > ** We made a pre-reservation of 2 hacklabs, 2 conference room + 1
>> additional
>> > (bigger) room for Debian Day.
>>
>> If it's possible, I'd much prefer having a third conference room... or
>> at least, to know the cost to add it and the time we have to book it
>> beforehand. This year, as one of the possible talk rooms was at a
>> non-accessible place, we had to discard it and... The schedule is
>> quite cramped :(
>>
>>
> Ok, I will look into this.
>
>
>> > ** Wine & cheese party: They don't really like the idea of people
>> bringing
>> > their own food/drink. Basically, they don't want any liability if
>> something
>> > goes wrong (someone gets food poisoned and decides to sue the hotel).
>> > ** We'll probably have to sign a document in order to have the Wine &
>> cheese
>> > party at the venue and pay a small fee.
>>
>> I understand it's for the industrial size of the thing. People always
>> bring their own food and drinks to hotels, in small quantities. But
>> yes, it is sensible for them to tell this beforehand. We can of course
>> sign we promise not to en-masse die that night ;-) If it's possible,
>> we could even hold the party outside the hotel building, i.e. at a
>> tent in the garden or something like that? At Norman's all-welcoming
>> house? :-)
>>
>>
> Plan B is the Hotel Mansión Teodolinda for the Wine & Cheese Party. We can
> bring in all the food/booze we want, and the rent is really cheap.
>
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> You're welcome! :)
>
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