Dear DebConf community, for those who did not attend yesterday's Jabber/XMPP BoF, here is the not so short summary, mainly taken from: https://pad.dc25.debconf.org/p/r.70e41ed993fc40036944a5224088e7ed
First, special thanks to Valhalla for taking live notes and to Lynn for letting us use their computer for the large screen! * State of Jabber/XMPP packages in trixie: https://xmpp-team.pages.debian.net/blog/2025/05/xmpp-debian-13-trixie-news.html Seems to be accurate and complete, nobody complained. * TODOs for post-trixie: - ejabberd needs help! Esp. migrating build from rebar to rebar3, i.e. dh-rebar needs to get support for that (ejabberd MUC: 2025-07-18 11:40:34 - badlop: here is the patch https://gist.github.com/badlop/c895a5dd6b91e7d5c894744380482f51) https://bugs.debian.org/1072724 - slixmpp uses the deprecated Python JID code in Debian, but we should migrate to the official Rust library (`jid`). This will most likely be done soon. - SFS (stateless file sharing) bug fixes in dino-im for the first point release 13.1 https://bugs.debian.org/1109505 - There is also a MUC related Dino bug https://bugs.debian.org/1109505, but not yet confirmed or fixed upstream, maybe for 13.2 * Nice to have web clients with probably high effort: - Converse.js (JS) https://bugs.debian.org/807275 - Libervia web (Python, JS, and both combined: Brython, which is hard to package reg. d/copyright) https://bugs.debian.org/725761 - Movim (PHP, JS) https://bugs.debian.org/891462 - Prose (Rust, JS) https://bugs.debian.org/1109503 * Other packages, maybe less challeging: - eTURNal, an Erlang based alternative to coTURN with much better logging, and easier to configure https://bugs.debian.org/1098697 * Snikket-like (https://snikket.org/) helper to install a good prosody server for small self-hosting sites - maybe just a metapackage with the dependecies, maybe an ansible playbook (if strictly needed), even better it would be adding debconf questions and/or changing the package defaults - it is possible to add a certbot hook to make a default position for the certificate that prosody can use, or we can use prosodyctl insertcert (?) in the deploy-hooks of certbot - first step would be to update https://docs.trueelena.org/self_hosting/modern_xmpp_server/index.html to trixie and then migrate it to some debian place - debops already has some rules for prosody - Jabber MUC for further discussions on this: xmpp:[email protected]?join * Debian Jabber server (`@debian.org`) ideas: - Run direct TLS over 443 to make it work in British trains and other public wifis (DSA might be reluctant) - Have our own biboumi instance at least for OFTC - adding turn/stun for video calls - have a wiki page (or a page on https://xmpp-team.pages.debian.net ?) with a bit more details on what can be expected from the service (video calls? biboumi?) - further discussion in xmpp:[email protected]?join We stopped here, because of `E_TIMEOUT` ;-) Happy chatting, happy jabbering!
