2014-09-07 16:28 GMT-06:00 Gunnar Wolf <gw...@gwolf.org>: > Ian Jackson dijo [Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 07:44:48PM +0100]: > > Right. Her talk (which I found very interesting and illuminating) > > raised somewhat different issues. > > > > It would have been impossible for her to deal properly with her > > subject matter without quoting (and showing) some of her primary > > source materials. Without that it would have been very hard to get a > > proper understanding. > > > > Many of those were very offensive, and if forming part of a talk in > > the ordinary way would have been a grievious violation. The content > > warning was IMO an entirely appropriate way of dealing with this > > difficulty. > > Biella's use was quoting, I seriously doubt she said any such things > outside the context of quoting what the subjects of her work had > already said (and we were interested in listening to). > > But anyway, we _do_ talk that way. I have to adhere to the paragraph > in Russ' initial mail regarding the cultural shift over the > generations. Words that were once bad per se are now to be taken in > context. Because they are words, and because there are not aggressive > and disrespectful by themselves. > > Disrespect and aggression can be perfectly stated using "accepted" > words. And that's something we should worry about. But requiring us to > restrict the vocabulary if it's done in a non-harming, non-offending > way? That's clearly overreaching and negative IMO. > > And yes, we have kids among our ranks and whatnot. But if the parents > believe their kids (who are completely and legally under their > parents' care) should not listen to "grownup language", they should > take care not to bring them in. Many parents will not mind their child > listening to an occasional swear-word. > > And yes, I know this last paragraph of mine might not suit > everybody. But really, I believe that failing to do so will alienate > many among us. Not that we _need_ to use expeltives, but that we > (sometimes strongly) feel there's nothing bad about them. >
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