Incidentally, if as per my last email we do start talking schemas and code
and whatnot else, we should move to the dev list: dbmail-dev@dbmail.org

Aaron


On Thu, 1 May 2003, lou wrote:

> In some email I received from Aaron Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 1 May 
> 2003
> 12:37:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
> > You wouldn't be able to separate reads and writes because the IMAP/POP3
> > servers are so much faster than the database replication that even
> > something as simple as moving a message from one folder to another would
> > appear to have failed but then suddenly take effect a few seconds later.
> > The delay would get worse as the load went up, making a medium load
> > system appear even laggier and buggier than a heavily loaded one.
>
> right, dbmail is not optimized for parallel operations nor mysql is.
> however you answer is quite scary:)
>
> > Allowing a slave to step up to master status presents another problem
> > because at the time of resynchronization, you are likely to find that
> > changes were committed to the failed master before they could be
> > propagated. This leaves the sequence numbers in a perfect position to
> > collide and cause a full halt of all replication until manually restored
> > (this is further explained in the MySQL manual).
>
> that depends, depends what's the factor to generate those numbers..
> also consider each server working i its own dimension of the database where 
> the others
> doesnt have write permissions, also the access shouldnt be  async but synch, 
> we all know
> that sync access with transactions is more safe(not super fast, but in some 
> cases it is)
>
> > I've been thinking about this problem, and it might be possible to
> > eliminate the auto_increment fields,
> I was trying to tell you this since i wrote this very basic thing,
> auto increment suck in general especially when you cant change the increment 
> factor
>
> (on pgsql you can but the replication is not for productional use though)
>
> Also why dont you push for per server table for sequences, that how you can 
> easily
> implemend a group communication between the servers and make it lot more 
> robust..
> anyway the sequence generation have to be coded but i dont see this as a big 
> problem...
>
> just from my experience with mysql/pgsql/soso, i've never used auto increment 
> with any
> database, simply because it's not portable (if you want to move it  to a 
> different
> database) and doesnt give you this really important management layer, like in 
> this case.
>
> >  using only the unique id of each
> > message as its handle. It's just a thought, and would require a lot of
> > work to implement the full semantics to maintain referential integrity,
> > but might be a good place to start.
>
> if you're interested i can send over the design paper?
>
> cheers
>
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