Aaron,

    Thanks for your explanation. It was very good for my learning in DBMail.

Nataniel Klug

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <dbmail@dbmail.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Dbmail] System accounts


: IMHO, this isn't the direction DBMail is trying to take at all. System
: accounts are like the antithesis of why you would use DBMail.
:
: [steps onto soapbox, rant mode on]
:
: Let's be clear on one thing: /etc/passwd and dbmail don't mix. Period.
:
: If you *do* want DBMail users to be able to log in, get pam_mysql.
:
: Now, there is one very important thing that you are right to bring up:
: mail for 'root', 'postmaster', 'webmaster' and a few other accounts are
: required to exist and not bounce. Several RFC's do define things that must
: or should exist in a given domain... and most /etc/aliases files have
: these by default. If you've got dbmail running as the only mda for a given
: domain, then you have to define these aliases immediately but manually.
:
: I think that the best way to tackle this is either to suggest a default
: configuration for which dbmail is used only if a /etc/aliases entry isn't
: found, in some kind of a setup so that those certain key aliases go to an
: ordinary file based delivery, or to have the default sql scripts include
: entries for a root/postmaster/domainmaster/webmaster user and all of those
: critical aliases defined for that user.
:
: [steps off of soapbox, rant mode off]
:
: Aaron
:
:
: On 13 Feb 2003, Rendhalver wrote:
:
: > On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 06:04, Nataniel Klug wrote:
: > > Hello Jesse,
: > >
: > > :   No, there is nothing currently setup that will make dbmail look
: > > : at the system password/shadow file, you have to have aliases setup
: > > : in dbmail's aliases table (eg. you can just make aliases for all the
: > > : accounts that point to the same INBOX).  There is work being done
: > > : for seperating authentication and message storage, and it'd probably
: > > : (eventually) be possible to make it check there for passwords, but
: > > : even then I bet you'll need to have aliases for all accounts (there
: > > : is nothing in the password file that tells where to deliver mail to).
: > > : IMHO, that's one of the nicest features of dbmail over most mail
: > > : systems - you don't have to give your users an actual OS login.
: >
: > i think the current setup for system aliases should be respected by
: > dbmail
: > those system aliases are there for a pretty good reason and adding about
: > 15-20 aliases just so you can read your system email is a bit annoying
: >
: > >     This work is not possible becouse I need system accounts to my radius 
server
: > > authenticate dialup users. I am thinking in put the radius and system 
accounts (with
: > > postfix mail system for local users) in on machine and use another 
machine to
authenticate
: > > virtual users using DBMail.
: > >
: > > :   I think there may be scripts around either in the distribution or
: > > : that you could find in the mailing list archive that will convert
: > > : a 'conventional' mail system to dbmail, including all users/aliases
: > > : being setup and mail getting loaded into the db - you might look for
: > > : those.
: >
: > they sound like something to include in the distfile
: > maybe asking the guy who wrote them if that is ok would be a good idea
: >
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