... I tried it on Lr & Cp1... if you think i'm stupid!...

????? What has my bug report to do with Lightroom or CaptureOne ?????? Why should I think you are stupid ?????

"as imported" is the problem... The exif are the reference to sort the images in lightable
What is "The exif" ? Which exif tag do you mean? DateTime ? DateTimeOriginal ? CreateDate ? Any other ? And if I choose "custom order" this order should be only relevant one when sorting the collection, not any other order.
If your images are renamed in the opposite time order
They are *not* imported or renamed in opposite time order. And if I drag/drop the same selection of three images a second time, the sequence is inverted *again*. So as I understand, the bug described could have to do with some "refacturing", done in the last weeks/month which also caused the bug fixed with https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/8719-

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