Hi Aurélien, Thanks for the response. I understand that presets are just presets, not one-size-fits-all tools. I was just surprised that while the 'old' presets usually required little tweaking, the new (RGB) ones seemed to be very different. I thought maybe there was a module order problem (you pointed out a few in your latest filmicRGB + tone EQ video - great one, BTW!), or something else I was not aware of (botched input profile setting, colour space etc.). If you check Screenshot_20191022_212737.png (a new addition to the uploads at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Abif5j70a0aaVTanGBd7O0JyMntOcRlg), you'll see that even with the maximum value (minimal magnitude) one can set for 'black relative exposure' (-3EV), the picture looks washed out, and the histogram does not reach the left-hand-side (a different photo, but from the same set).
Thanks again, Kofa / István On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Aurélien Pierre <rese...@aurelienpierre.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > presets are just that : presets. It's hard to have them truly universal. If > you like other presets better, just save them. > > Filmic RGB uses a different spline interpolation method that behaves > differently, closer to the densitometric curves of actual film emulsion. But > the previous presets don't make sense now. > > All the current presets put the middle-grey… in the middle of the dynamic > range. You will find that it's how the interpolation behaves better, and it > only make sense if you think about it. If you find you image is blown-out (is > it really though, or did you just lose local contrast in highlights… which is > the goal ?), you can use the dynamic range scaling setting, to quickly and > symmetrically give a safety margin to the black and white points. > > Cheers, > > Aurélien. > > Le 16/10/2019 à 10:34, KOVÁCS István a écrit : > > Hi, > > I'm on darktable 1a11ea71 compiled using build.sh; OS is Kubuntu 19.04. > > I started with a reasonably exposed landscape, and tried applying the > 'outdoors' setting as a starting point (that, and 'bright outdoors', > often worked well for me in 'classic' filmic in darktable 2.6.2). WIth > the version built from master, I get a rather blown-out picture, with > the grey point set to 2.31%. Auto-tuning sets it to around 5%, and > that results in a much more pleasant rendering (my preferred value, > set manually, is 6%). In 2.6.2, the outdoors preset used 9%; the one > most similar to master's 'outdoors' setting from was 'HDR' of v2.6.2 > (2.25%). > I've uploaded the NEF and screenshots with the different settings here: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Abif5j70a0aaVTanGBd7O0JyMntOcRlg > > I started my 'master' version with separate config/cache/library, so I > don't think I have any automatically applied settings other than those > shipped out of the box. 'Classic' filmic is no longer available as a > module, although I can open old history stacks and see a '/!\ filmic' > step in them; editing is not possible. > > A slightly confusing entry in the history: there is a step called > 'gamma', but it's not tied to any module. I guess it's internal > processing, something the users can't do anything about. > > Thanks, > Kofa > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___________________________________________________________________________ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
