How is this a JPEG vs. RAW issue? I have done a great deal of cropping in Darktable (on both JPEGs and RAWs) and I think that adding the proposed single-drag interaction would speed up cropping a great deal over the current process, no matter the format of the image being edited.
-- August Schwerdfeger aug...@schwerdfeger.name On 2/17/19 8:01 PM, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > > Although darktable handles JPG images very well, I think that its > primary market was targeted towards users who shoot RAW with an > expectation of doing more complex processing on individual frames. > Maybe darktable is simply the wrong software for your high production > needs. > > On 2019-02-17 4:08 p.m., Robert Krawitz wrote: >> I find the crop tool to be unwieldly for my common use case, namely >> processing a large number of photographs from shooting sports. >> >> I shoot a lot of basketball and (American) football games for my alma >> mater. My workflow is to import the typically ~2000 photos into >> KPhotoAlbum, review them and select the ones I want (typically 300 or >> so), and create a directory with symlinks to the selected files. >> These are essentially all JPEG; RAW would simply consume too much >> space and slow the camera (Canon 7DmkII) too much. >> >> The postprocessing I do is limited to cropping and rotating, if my >> camera was not level (typically it isn't perfectly level, as I'm >> shooting handheld bursts). I gave up on noise reduction last year; >> the 7DmkII is good enough even at ISO 6400, and additional NR really >> slows things down. >> >> The difficulty is that to crop the frame (always freehand) requires >> the following motions: >> >> 1) Position the mouse near one corner of the image (say, top left), >> which may be nowhere near where I want to crop. >> >> 2) Click and move the top and left edges (via the top left corner) to >> the desired spot. >> >> 3) Move the mouse to the bottom right of the image, which again might >> not be near where I want to crop. >> >> 4) Click and move the bottom and right edges to the desired spot. >> >> With RawTherapee I simply place the mouse at the desired top left >> spot, click and drag it to the bottom right, and I'm done. The extra >> motions with Darktable, especially since they have to start far from >> what may be my point of interest, are awkward and cost maybe 5 seconds >> per image. With 300 images, that's an extra 25 minutes; this past >> Wednesday I shot two games that totaled 700 images, so the extra time >> would have been an hour. >> >> I'd prefer to use Darktable for this purpose, since it's otherwise a >> lot faster. RawTherapee takes maybe 3 seconds or so to export an >> image; Darktable is more like 1 second, not to mention that the rotate >> function is easier in Darktable (right mouse drag). But the current >> behavior of the cropping tool is simply too awkward (I tried it for >> one set and it really did take a lot more time). >> >> I tried looking at the code (in src/iop/clipping.c), but it wasn't >> obvious to me what would need to change to do this. I understand that >> dragging inside the frame is used to move the crop box, but that's >> rarely something I need to do. I have at least two more games this >> season to shoot, and if we make it to the later rounds of the >> tournament, I'm going to have a lot more photos (less selective about >> what I keep). >> >> Perhaps what I really need is a very minimalist program that lets me >> set the crop and rotate and do nothing else, but I haven't found such >> (on Linux). >> >> Thoughts, anyone? > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___________________________________________________________________________ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
