First a message for everyone on this thread: please use just
reply-to-list. Else I get 2 copies of the message. No need to cc to me
or anyone else.

I see your point about your editing, if you have an injury. I use
darktable nearly daily and I regularly have to spend many hours in
darktable and edit hundreds of shots, and I've become very fast at it so
I do not think I would personally benefit. However, I do like the idea
of customizable categories, and I think that would be far preferable
than changing the interface for most existing users.

Another disadvantage of your approach is that it places a huge amount of
modules in category 1. That would get even more cumbersome to scroll
through them if you have multiple instances of each module.

Jason

On 2018-10-07 11:39 PM, Aurélien Pierre wrote:
> The real question here is : could you get past the change and benefit
> from it ?
> 
> I'm biased here, since I developed repetitive strain injury in the wrist
> at the early age of 23. So I'm basically trying to improve the
> efficiency of the workflow by decreasing as much as possible the number
> of user interactions on each picture, especially the mouse interactions.
> 
> If it's only for cropping, it can be fixed. At the end, I think it
> really depends on how many hours you spend each week on darktable.
> Because editing a whole wedding is definitely not the same as editing a
> bunch of holidays pictures, so I guess every user will have a different
> sensibility to workflow matters and the occasionnal users will mostly
> care about the overhead of the refactoring (having to learn things
> again) while the regular users will see it as a long-term investment.
> 
> 
> Le 07/10/2018 à 23:02, Jason Polak a écrit :
>> Hi!
>>
>> I can certainly see the logic of your idea. I definitely prefer the
>> current setup, if only because that's what I started with. I think the
>> only way to see if this is a good idea is to poll users because I am
>> sure there are some that would like your way and some that prefer the
>> current way.
>>
>> I do have a specific criticism about your approach, though. I think
>> cropping should come early in the editing process. I care much more
>> about adjusting the general exposure and crop (composition) before I
>> could even think about lens correction or noise reduction. This is
>> doubly so because I take a multi-pass view on editing. I first do some
>> basic edits of exposure, cropping, and tone curve adjustments to the
>> shots I think are half-decent, and then promote the best ones to the
>> next star level. Only with the highest star rating do I even consider
>> spending time on noise reduction and lens correction as there is not
>> much point on noise reduction in the bad images.
>>
>> Personally, I have found after a couple months it's easy to remember
>> where all the modules are and changing it would only make it worse for me.
>>
>> Jason
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