On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:44 PM, K. Adam Christensen
<p...@shifteleven.com> wrote:
> Just a quick check - is Long Exposure NR being ON OK? Or do I need to try to
> find another method?
If that is what produces the 12-bit uncompressed raw, then it is fine.

> --
> Adam
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:33 AM Roman Lebedev <lebedev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:30 PM, K. Adam Christensen
>> <p...@shifteleven.com> wrote:
>> > Crud. I didn't read the manual close enough - Hi+ drive mode goes to
>> > 12bit
>> > for compressed RAW only. I need to find another way. Perhaps by leaving
>> > Long
>> > Exposure NR on, but then doesn't that have issues on the RAW file too?
>> > Bah,
>> > I may need to keep reading.
>> Yes, others appear to have correct bitdepth/compression.
>>
>> For reference:
>> $ exiv2 -Pkt raw.arw | grep Exif.SubImage1.BitsPerSample
>> ^ that is the value you should be looking for.
>>
>> > Sorry about that.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Adam
>> Roman.
>>
>> > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:17 AM Roman Lebedev <lebedev...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:06 PM, K. Adam Christensen
>> >> <p...@shifteleven.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi.
>> >> Hi.
>> >>
>> >> > I've taken the sample photos -
>> >> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1aGKdgR1NkwSdeDHPuvhQLqbjaUnA-QOq.
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > going to upload them to https://raw.pixls.us/ now.
>> >> The "Sony_-_ILCE-7RM3_-_12bit_uncompressed_(3:2).ARW" is still 14 bit.
>> >>
>> >> > --
>> >> > Adam
>> >> Roman.
>> >>
>> >> > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:15 AM Roman Lebedev <lebedev...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Bob Tregilus <v2g...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Thanks Roman.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If I get my hands on a camera, I can provide studio shots of a
>> >> >> > color
>> >> >> > card /
>> >> >> > target.
>> >> >> The exact content of the shots does not matter,
>> >> >> as long they *all* have the *same* content.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Any sense on when 2.4.0 might be final, a week, two?
>> >> >> No clue, certainly *not* this weekend.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I offered to donate to the project some time ago but was told to
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > use
>> >> >> > the software. you guys should add a donate button to your website
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > have a beer or two on those of us who unable to contribute code.
>> >> >> > :)
>> >> >> That suggestion was brought up a lot of times.
>> >> >> There are no legal entity/person to handle the legal matters (taxes,
>> >> >> etc).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >> > Bob
>> >> >> Roman.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Roman Lebedev
>> >> >> > <lebedev...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Bob Tregilus <v2g...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Hi Roman -
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Yes, I was aware of the need to open an issue at
>> >> >> >> > <https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues/new>.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The camera I'm trying to get samples uploaded to <raw.pixls.us>
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > new Sony ILCE-7RM3, not the DSC-RX10M3.
>> >> >> >> Ah!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The ILCE-7RM3 just started shipping in Europe and Asia last
>> >> >> >> > month
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> > few
>> >> >> >> > are beginning to be shipped in the U.S., where I live. (I just
>> >> >> >> > ordered
>> >> >> >> > one,
>> >> >> >> > but it looks like it will be a few weeks before it arrives. A
>> >> >> >> > friend
>> >> >> >> > had
>> >> >> >> > one
>> >> >> >> > on preorder early, so he may get it in a week or so and I'll be
>> >> >> >> > able
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > get
>> >> >> >> > the samples at that time. It's an extremely popular camera that
>> >> >> >> > people
>> >> >> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > really going nuts over. So if at all possible, it really should
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > included
>> >> >> >> > in the upcoming 2.4.0 release--if at all possible. Of course, I
>> >> >> >> > understand
>> >> >> >> > if it's too late for this release.)
>> >> >> >> If the full sample set will be uploaded before the 2.4.0 final,
>> >> >> >> then
>> >> >> >> it will fit.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > So I've been lobbying various forums to try and get someone to
>> >> >> >> > upload
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > requisite samples to <raw.pixls.us>, after which, I had planned
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > open
>> >> >> >> > an
>> >> >> >> > issue at
>> >> >> >> > <https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues/new>.
>> >> >> >> I think there are 4 samples needed:
>> >> >> >> * compressed 14bit
>> >> >> >> * uncompressed 14bit
>> >> >> >> * compressed 12bit (high FPS shooting?)
>> >> >> >> * uncompressed 12bit
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> As usual, the all the samples need to have the same content,
>> >> >> >> and the scene and the camera should be as static as possible.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Is that the correct process given I can't submit the samples
>> >> >> >> > myself
>> >> >> >> > as
>> >> >> >> > yet?
>> >> >> >> As long as the samples are uploaded by the person who owns the
>> >> >> >> samples,
>> >> >> >> and not reuploaded e.g. from some review site, i don't see the
>> >> >> >> problem.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Thanks for your help!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Bob
>> >> >> >> > in Reno, NV
>> >> >> >> Roman.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:55 PM, Roman Lebedev
>> >> >> >> > <lebedev...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:10 AM, Bob Tregilus
>> >> >> >> >> <v2g...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > Hi -
>> >> >> >> >> Hi.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Love Darktable--thanks for a great product!
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > As you are likely aware, Sony is now shipping the third
>> >> >> >> >> > version
>> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > popular a7r series (the a7r III).
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Since it has been some time since a new version of Darktable
>> >> >> >> >> > has
>> >> >> >> >> > been
>> >> >> >> >> > released, I assume a new version maybe approaching the beta
>> >> >> >> >> > stage?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > I've been working fanatically, to come up with a way to get
>> >> >> >> >> > Sony
>> >> >> >> >> > a7rIII
>> >> >> >> >> > RAW
>> >> >> >> >> > samples submitted to raw.pixls.us, so support will be
>> >> >> >> >> > included
>> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> > any
>> >> >> >> >> > new
>> >> >> >> >> > release of Darktable that may be in the pipeline.
>> >> >> >> >> It does not work like that. Samples on RPU only guarantee that
>> >> >> >> >> there
>> >> >> >> >> won't
>> >> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> >> any unwanted regressions in raw file decoding. Uploading
>> >> >> >> >> samples
>> >> >> >> >> *does
>> >> >> >> >> not*
>> >> >> >> >> automagically mean that we will add support for that. You need
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> open
>> >> >> >> >> an issue:
>> >> >> >> >> https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues/new
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > I've made requests on an a7rIII user list on Facebook asking
>> >> >> >> >> > someone
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > take
>> >> >> >> >> > the time to submit samples to raw.pixls.us. So far, I've had
>> >> >> >> >> > no
>> >> >> >> >> > luck.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > A friend preordered the camera, when it was first announced,
>> >> >> >> >> > so
>> >> >> >> >> > he
>> >> >> >> >> > should be
>> >> >> >> >> > getting his soon. When he does, I'll be able to get the
>> >> >> >> >> > necessary
>> >> >> >> >> > samples
>> >> >> >> >> > uploaded to raw.pixls.us.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > The camera has been shipping elsewhere in the world and is
>> >> >> >> >> > only
>> >> >> >> >> > now
>> >> >> >> >> > beginning to ship in the U.S., so it still may be several
>> >> >> >> >> > weeks
>> >> >> >> >> > before
>> >> >> >> >> > I'll
>> >> >> >> >> > be able to submit the samples.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > By all accounts, the a7rIII is selling very well, with many
>> >> >> >> >> > Nikon
>> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> > Canon
>> >> >> >> >> > DSLR users making the jump to mirrorless. And, of course,
>> >> >> >> >> > many
>> >> >> >> >> > a7rII
>> >> >> >> >> > users
>> >> >> >> >> > upgrading to the new a7rIII as well.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I'm just hoping that if a new version of Darktable is in the
>> >> >> >> >> > pipeline
>> >> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> >> > it will include support for the new a7rIII.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Whatever the case, be it known that I will get a7rIII
>> >> >> >> >> > samples
>> >> >> >> >> > upload
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > raw.pixls.us as soon as I'm able, which should be within the
>> >> >> >> >> > next
>> >> >> >> >> > several
>> >> >> >> >> > weeks.
>> >> >> >> >> That's SONY DSC-RX10M3, right? We already have a sample for
>> >> >> >> >> that.
>> >> >> >> >> Looking at the PDF usermanual, *i think* that camera can only
>> >> >> >> >> produce
>> >> >> >> >> one raw 'format', so 1 sample is all.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >> > Bob
>> >> >> >> >> > in Reno, NV
>> >> >> >> >> Roman.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > PS: At the same time, or shortly thereafter when I get my
>> >> >> >> >> > camera
>> >> >> >> >> > (just
>> >> >> >> >> > ordered mine last night), I'll be sure to get lenses
>> >> >> >> >> > corrections
>> >> >> >> >> > submitted
>> >> >> >> >> > to the Lensfun project as well.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
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