hi,

Blitz comes with high casualities.Shock and awe
technique can use troops paratrooping into baghdad.But
casualities are always unacceptable to the U.S. So
they do it the conventional way.

Sarath.

--- Ken Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tyler Durden wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > PS: Anyone notice the conceptual similarity
> between "shock and awe" and
> > "blitzkrieg"?
> 
> Yes, similar in some respects, though not the same.
> "Shock and awe"
> (terrible name for a quite sensible idea) was about
> a military force
> which is overwhelmingly stronger than its opponent
> attempting to win
> quickly and with minimum casualties on either side
> by rapidly and
> completely disrupting the enemy's ability to respond
> intelligently.
> 
> Blitzkrieg (not a word the Germans used officially
> in 1939 & 1940 - I'm
> told it was coined by an Italian journalist) was
> about a quick victory
> over an opponent of similar strength to oneself, by
> a deep and rapid
> penetration, close co-operation between arms, and
> continual
> re-evaluation of objectives by field officers on the
> ground.  
> 
> Blitzkrieg is one of the roots of S&A - but it has
> others including the
> punitive expeditions of colonial times, the British
> attempt to support
> indirect rule in Iraq by airpower alone in the
> 1920s, the massive aerial
> bombardments of Germany and Japan in WW2, the nukes
> at Hiroshima and
> Nagasaki, unrelenting Israeli pressure on the
> Palestinians,  and even US
> actions in places like Grenada and Panama.
> 
> The US has *not* used "shock and awe" in this
> campaign. If it had it
> might have thrown everything at Iraq in the first
> few hours - all the
> MOABs,  all the cluster bombs, all the
> bunker-busters, all the B1s, B2s,
> B52s can drop. It might have sent airborne troops in
> on the first day,
> ignored Basra, dropped men in Baghdad. The ideal
> "shock and awe" opening
> to the war would have had the citizens of Baghdad
> see those 3000
> missiles go off more or less simultaneously, in the
> first 30 minutes,
> not the first 3 days,  a ring of fire round their
> city, to the
> background of the exploding bombloads of 100 B52s.
> The TV and radio and
> military communications would have been knocked out.
> The presidential
> palaces and guards barracks would not have been just
> hit, but removed.
> The dazed citizens would have wandered into the
> streets in the morning
> to find them already patrolled by Americans. If
> Saddam Hussein had
> survived the bombing he'd have woken screaming to
> see not his own
> bodyguard but the SAS.
> 
> In fact the war has been run like a classic tank
> campaign, a blitzkrieg
> - tightly controlled armoured penetration over
> narrow fronts, avoiding
> easily defensible places, keeping on the move, 
> attempting to catch the
> enemy in the open and destroy him by rapidly
> bringing together local
> massive concentrations, but just steaming past an
> enemy unwilling to
> fight or hunkered down in cities or fortifications. 
> Guderian or
> Tukachevsky or Tal would have recognised the
> strategy instantly. 
> (Zhukov or Montgomery might have wanted larger,
> heavier formations). 
> The tremendous advantage given by the total air
> superiority has been
> used just ahead of the attack, as a sort of updated
> version of the
> moving barrage of WW1.
> 
> It has actually been quite a successful blitz. They
> are still making
> better time than the Germans did on the road to
> Warsaw.
> 
> I don't know why they are not trying the shock and
> awe strategy. I can
> think of a number of possibilities. They aren't
> mutually exclusive. In
> declining order of likelihood:
> 
> - perhaps they have a greater respect for the Iraqi
> military than they
> let on
> 
> - maybe, despite the hype, the battlefield
> technology is not yet in
> place, or not in great enough strength.  The news
> over here has
> mentioned British marines trying to find the launch
> sites  of the
> missiles aimed at them and that hit Kuwait. The
> pre-war propaganda was
> all about JSTARS or whatever spotting the launch
> site instantly and
> targeting retaliation within seconds.  But we're
> still using blokes with
> binoculars.
> 
> - maybe shock and awe is a bad idea anyway. It might
> just be too risky.
> If you throw everything you have got at them on day
> one, what do you do
> if they don't cave in on day two?  OK, you make sure
> you have enough kit
> to keep on doing it - that's actually part of the
> doctrine - but sooner
> or later it runs out. And there are loads of other
> countries out there
> who need their dose of S&A.  It is a very expensive
> kind of warfare.
> 
> - it could be that the military is just too innately
> conservative for
> the much-hyped S&A
> 
> - perhaps there are some new tricks they didn't want
> to use in sight of
> Iran - which (rumour has it) the PNAC types want to
> invade next (I hope
> to God they don't)
> 
> - perhaps they're saving it for a final attack on
> Baghdad
> 
> - maybe they wanted to use all their nice tanks
> before they were
> obsolete. They haven't had a real fast-moving large
> scale tank battle in
> ages. They never got to fight the Russians, in 1991
> they were mostly
> shooting  at the backs of men running away. It would
> have been a shame
> to let an entire generation of big boy's toys rust
> unused. The RAF
> somehow found a role for the last Vulcan bomber in
> the Falklands...
> 
> - perhaps the generals took one look at the likes of
> Rumsfeld and Cheney
> and Perle and the other PNACs and thought to
> themselves, without moving
> their lips: "Fuck you, Sir! We'll do it our way,
> Sir!"
> 
> - maybe they realise that treating the whole world
> the way a crackhead
> pimp treats last year's whore who tries to steal his
> stash isn't going
> to stop terrorism.
> 


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