At 01:00 AM 12/17/2002 -0500, Shawn Duffy wrote:
While I disagree with the phrase "revenge only becomes justice if
carried out by the State" and I certainly don't agree with everything
ever written in a Crypto-Gram, I must disagree with your evaluation of
Mr. Schneier's editorial. Specifically, the phrase "why the state can
NOT be just"... Please tell me why... or better yet, how do you define
"just"? perhaps, I am living in a dream world, but, if you live in the
United States, then we DO still have control over what the State does...
bring on the naysayers, and the people who cry about corruption and
conspiracy... but the fact still remains, that what the people want, the
people can have... if they want it bad enough... the problem is that the
people don't want it bad enough anymore.. the apathy is sickening...
who's fault is that? I am so tired of hearing people cry about
government corruption and what is wrong with this country and society
when only 50% or less of the people actually vote... People say that
they don't vote because they don't like the options presented to them...
well, then change them... as for the State having "NO motivation to be
fair"... please support this... our system is, by no means, perfect...
but, it is a system where if you want to make things different, then
make them different... instead of getting on your soapbox to bitch and
moan about how unfair things are, why not start makings things fair...
My reply to your question is in my .sig A much more erudite reply can be found at http://www.fff.org/freedom/1096e.asp


"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship." --Alexander Fraser Tyler



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