On Friday 15 November 2002 00:41, you wrote:
> Indeed, I've heard the same. One could argue that for someone to believe in
> something (religion) so intensely as to shun all moral explanation against
> this hypothesis and to persist in those beliefs without any proof is akin
> to schizophrenia. But that's a whole new kettle of fish.
> ~SAM

It all depends on the definition of sane...

As usually it's a religious force who imposes "truth", the faithfull will 
remain normal ... :)

Manipulating the definion of normality is dangerous and only begets the 
temptation to use it to use other people...

We have examples of self-proclaimed atheist societies where this was used for 
political manipulation: psiquiatric institutions in the former USRR, or even 
some private institutions in USA that would do that for a hire.. (the case of 
the frontal lobotomy of Getty's son, ordered by Getty himself (wich probably 
was age demented by that time, but has people obey to anyone who has a fat 
checkbook...) 

We could also invoke memetics and say that religion is like a mental disorder 
that spreads through a population... A meme infecting minds as they are 
vulnerable to certain statements, emotions and tautological arguments.

My experience in a former religious life, is that the mentally ill are drawn 
to the religious life... There's even a rare neurological sickness (caused by 
accidents and brain defects in certain parts of the brain ) in wich the 
patient has trancesdental  experiences and direct contact with god.

Interestingly, you can reproduce that experience with some mushrooms or roots 
from the amazon florest, there's even a cult in Brazil that uses them...
(more incredible, is that its alucinations are individualistic... someone 
that believes in buda, will feel Buda... Jeovah, etc... there are people 
(usually atheists) that say they talked with aliens and space ghosts :)))
This drug will even eliminate addictions.. There are heroin, tabaco, etc 
addicts that will have their addictions eliminated after a section with the 
so called sacrament...

Wich is very, very interesting.... for "the god in our brains" seems to clear 
our deepest fears and pain. 

Yours faithfully,

Andri Esteves

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