Steve I see your new here but I'd value your opinion on this,any clues?
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| On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:07:17 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rand |
| mair fheal) wrote: |
| >In article <87SY7.16223$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "M. L. Davis" |
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| > |
| >>rand mair fheal wrote in message ... |
| >>>>Cause Number |
| >>>> |
| >>>>Motor-vehicle 2,900 |
| >>>>Drowning 965 |
| >>>>Fires, burns 676 |
| >>>> Mechanical suffication 474 |
| >>>> Ingestion of food, object 185 |
| >>>>Firearms 142 |
| >>>> |
| >>>>Source: Figures are for 1997. National Safety Council, Accident Facts: |
| >>>>2000 Edition, at 10, 11, 18. |
| >>>> |
| >>>>Lookslike we need to ban swimming pools and taking kids for car rides |
| >>first. |
| >>> |
| >>>people also devote a great deal of effort |
| >>>to making cars safer |
| >> |
| >>Yet there is no way to asure those safety features are used- is there? |
| > |
| >even harder to use nonexistent safety features |
| What "safety" features are required on a handgun? |
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> rand mair fheal wrote:
>
> car manufacturers are sued and stomped on for their product defects
> and more so when they try to hide defects
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Cars are not supposed to be tools designed for killing things.
When they DO kill, then there are obvious safety concerns.
Guns that kill when the trigger is pulled are NOT defective!
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"rand mair fheal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]com...
> In article <RKIZ7.6250$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scout"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >"rand mair fheal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <vvtZ7.6187$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scout"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"rand mair fheal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> >Safety features onlywork IF you usew them. Ofthe17 people killed on
> >> >Florida
> >> >> >roads over NewYears only 3 were buckled up. In case you did not
> >notice,
> >> >> >theseatbeltsdidnot save the three who used them either.
> >> >>
> >> >> which is why congress wants passive restraints like air bags
> >> >
> >> >Why not simply ban cars?
> >>
> >> fine with me
> >> dangerous stinking chunks of metal
> >> fields of poppies and buttercups paved over into parking lot
> >>
> >> they found paradise
> >> and put up a parking lot
> >
> >I'm sure that would be fine with you. Simply notes how unrealistic your
> >"solutions" can become.
>
> its old ploy
> 'gosh why control guns when cars are so much more dangerous'
> and you expect to stutter and stammer trying to defend cars
>
> and when i dont you have to resort to more childish tantrums
Nope, no childish tantrums, just a note that you are willing to accept any
solution no matter how stupid, unrealistic or unworkable.
Tells me a lot about your mindset in supporting gun control. Doesn't matter
if it would work, can work or anything else, as long as it appeals to your
"sensitivities" then anything is acceptable to you.
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Scout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> "Steve Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:a14ugd$pqn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > "Bert Hyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Harris) wrote in
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>> > > > "Billy Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> > > >> I don't need you or anyone else telling me how to handle my guns,
>> > > >> and I won't have it in any circumstances.
>> > > >
>> > > > COMMENT
>> > > >
>> > > > Oh yes, you will, because whatever the voter decides will be
>> > > > enforced by people who (guaranteed) will outgun you. And you will
>> > > > do what they say, or they will send a SWAT team which will kill
>> > > > you. Very simple.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thus, I suggest stop beating your chest. It just makes you look
>> > > > silly.
>> > >
>> > > You, on the other hand, look like an apologist for authoritarian
>> > > thugs.
>> >
>> >
>> > COMMENT:
>> >
>> > Why, because I'm a realist, stating the obvious (or what ought to be
>>
>> <Visualizing this as an interview with a German citizen in 1939>
>>
>> I suppose supporting genocide is acceptable as long as you are a realist
>> about it?
>
>Did I say I supported genocide? Realistically, there's nothing that can be
You support anything that the government might be able to achieve with
naked force and brutality.
But then so did a majority of Germans between 1933 and 1945.
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:22:08 -0700, "Steve Harris"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Christopher Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:45:50 -0700, "Steve Harris"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >"Billy Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> >> I don't need you or anyone else telling me how to handle my guns,
>> >> and I won't have it in any circumstances.
>> >
>> >COMMENT
>> >
>> >Oh yes, you will, because whatever the voter decides will be enforced by
>> >people who (guaranteed) will outgun you. And you will do what they say,
>or
>> >they will send a SWAT team which will kill you. Very simple.
>> >
>> >Thus, I suggest stop beating your chest. It just makes you look silly.
>>
>> I suggest you stop looking for a jackboot to lick. It only makes you
>> look like what you really are, a serf.
>
>
>ROFL. Whereas you, Che Guevara, are no doubt posting from your secret base
>in the Jungles of Bolivia?
When you're older, have your mommy take you to library. See if she'll
let you check out Osanka. She'll probably just make you read Dr.
Seuss.
>If you disagree with the feds and you're not shooting at them, you're a
>hypocrite to take the stand you do. You are equally a serf. A loud mouthed
>braggart whose mouth writes checks his arsenal can't cash.
You're a coward and a serf, railing at everyone else who doesn't share
your cowardice and servility.
For you, government is just one big S&M power exchange.
The only question is, which do you crave more?
The sting of the lash or the feel of the handle?
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>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:58:30 -0700, "Steve Harris"
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>> >"Keith A Flick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> >
>> >> Not quite true. A gun in a gun safe, or many
>> >> guns in many gun safes, are very useful in
>> >> deterring government misbehaviors.
>> >
>> >
>> >COMMENT
>> >
>> >Yeah, wow, look how it deterred the government from mistreating the
>> >Davidians.
>>
>> It deterred those wretches from mistreating a lot of other people.
>> The BATF LOST at Waco. It took armor for the FBI to prevail.
>
>So? This in no way detracts from my point. The government always outguns
>you.
Bad tactics do not inevitability make. Now cowardice, such as
yours....
>> You're just a coward looking for someone to submit to.
>
>I haven't heard about your own fiiefight with the fibbies. Don't call other
>people cowards unless you have something better to show than bold talk.
You're a coward. You yearn for servility.
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Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
]"Christopher Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
]> You're just a coward looking for someone to submit to.
]
]I haven't heard about your own fiiefight with the fibbies. Don't call other
]people cowards unless you have something better to show than bold talk.
Why? While your detractors may or may not crack in battle they at least are not
tripping over themselves to surrender before the fact like you are.
You are far too willing to give up, and seem quite proud of the fact. That makes you a
coward. Your opponents *might* be cowards, but haven't done anything yet to prove it.
You leaped to the occasion. To cover up that fact, you are now visciously attacking
people and demanding they do stupid things like immediately take up arms when there is
currently no need to do so.
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"Lurker@home" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Our dream of a socialist America cannot be realized until the population
is
> disarmed."
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> Sarah Brady
Citation please; I don't believe she ever said it ... so prove it!!
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"M. Eglestone" wrote:
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> > rand mair fheal wrote:
> >
> > car manufacturers are sued and stomped on for their product defects
> > and more so when they try to hide defects
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> Cars are not supposed to be tools designed for killing things.
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> When they DO kill, then there are obvious safety concerns.
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> Guns that kill when the trigger is pulled are NOT defective!
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> - Mike -
