On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Eugene Leitl wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Jim Choate wrote:
> 
> > > 1) he's nuts. he won't listen to you.
> >
> > > 2) somebody please post that procmail recipe which would clog up his
> > >    mailbox
> >
> > You're as nuts as he is.
> 
> We have apparently a list policy which allows borderline nutcases to
> contaminate the list with pointless high-volume spewage.

What we have is a list policy that the backbone shall be unregulated or
otherwise modified by any of the nodes involved. What they do with it is
between them and their subscribers. I run SSZ and it stays open to non-member
submission, and raw feeds of the backbone to subscribers. Can't take the
heat, get out of the kitchen.

> However, content carriers find it much easier to unsubscribe (I personally
> know several who left the list for exactly the reasons I stated), and this
> I don't like, for purely selfish reasons.

<shrug>

Start your own node and filter to your subscribers to your hearts content.

> A little procmail automation can 1) supply the remailer network with extra
> traffic, making analysis more difficult

No, it won't. I'll leave the reasons why as an exercise for you to work
through. Hint, this isn't an anonymous remailer network so there is no
discrimination function involved in the traffic analysis.

> 2) apply backpressure from the end users, resulting in a grassrout silencing
>    of offensive posters.

You have a 1st amendment right to be offended at least once a day. And if
you're not then you're not practicing your civil liberties sufficiently.
You should also offend at least one person each day. Only then can freedom
truly flourish. This judeo-christian-conservative-CACL bullshit about
finding some happy medium with human behaviour is the exact reason we have
the sorts of problems we have.

You clearly don't understand who has what responsibility with the concept
of 'free speech'.

> I think this regulation mechanism is appropriate for this particular
> community.

You're welcome to your opinion, when you get your node up knock yourself
out. I'll even give you a feed off the backbone.

The reality is that no harm has come to you or any other participant in
this list from the traffic (irrespective of the content). Claiming that
this somehow gives you the right of self-defence is simply bullshit.
Having ones feeling hurt or being exposed to a concept or discussion not
of your interest justifies nothing more than your not participating.

You're a self-absorbed, self-important tyro who is only interested in
their personal goals and desires.

Fuck off and die.

ps Anyone who claims that CACL won't lead to traditional 'anarchy' only
   has to look at comment #2 above for a clear and present example of why
   CACL approaches to human psychology will never work.


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