Heh. It is generally believed that people will confess to anything under torture.
Now the government will never run out of terrorists. :-) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 02:52:46 +0100 From: Mario Profaca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[Spy News]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Spy News] Make torture an option? http://www.cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,324751-412,00.shtml Dershowitz: Make Torture An Option * Civil Libertarian Believes Torture Will Be Used In War On Terrorism * And He Wants Specific Procedures In Place * Watch Sunday at 7 PM ET/PT (CBS) Is there a place in the U.S. justice system for torture? Alan Dershowitz, the civil libertarian defender of O. J. Simpson, believes the law should sanction torture so it may be applied in certain cases, such as terrorist acts. In a report to be broadcast Sunday on 60 Minutes, Dershowitz tells Correspondent Mike Wallace that torture is inevitable. "We cant just close our eyes and pretend we live in a pure world," he says. After the events of Sept. 11, with many al Qaida members in custody, Dershowitz says he wants to bring the debate to the forefront. He gave the "ticking bomb" scenario - a person refusing to tell when and where a bomb will go off as an example of the type of case warranting torture. The FBI has anonymously leaked to the press the belief inside the bureau that torture may be an option in these trying times. But Lewis Schiliro, former New York bureau director, warns of problems with torture. "If anybody had the ability to prevent the events of Sept. 11... they would have gone to whatever length... The problem becomes, where do we draw that line?" he tells Wallace. Torture is prohibited by the U.S. Constitution, says Human Rights Watch Executive Director Kenneth Roth, who also says its not reliable. He points out that an Islamic terrorist, convicted in America for terrorist plots he admitted to after torture by authorities in the Philippines, had also admitted to being the Oklahoma City bomber. "People will say anything under torture," says Roth, adding that resorting to torture degrades humanity and the idea of democracy. "We, in many important respects, become like the terrorists," he tells Wallace. "They will have won. Our democracy will have lost." This is a naive viewpoint, says Dershowitz. "If anybody has any doubt that our CIA, over time, has taught people to torture, has encouraged torture, has probably itself tortured in extreme cases, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn." =============================================================== SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html =============================================================== *** FAIR USE NOTICE. This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Spy News is making it available without profit to SPY NEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information in their efforts to advance the understanding of intelligence and law enforcement organizations, their activities, methods, techniques, human rights, civil liberties, social justice and other intelligence related issues, for non-profit research and educational purposes only. We believe that this constitutes a 'fair use' of the copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Law. If you wish to use this copyrighted material for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use,' you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------------------------------- SPY NEWS home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews To change your subscription mode to Daily Digest (one message a day) send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that replying to THIS e-mail will not remove you from the mailing list. To unsubscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario Profaca Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
