At 01:50 PM 7/19/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >However, the case should still go to trial, and other companies targeted by this sort of behavvior should copy the Adobe approach & perhaps get extradition procedures against people in other nations engaged in similar behavior. >The hacker standard of rock throwing, at technology that is unneccessarily fragile, is as welcome to the users of this technology, as are the peers who knock down rural mail boxes, rob retailers at gun point, play loud music on public highways, create computer viruses, send us e-spam, phone us at home with recorded messages. A pox on all of you. >We users blast victims of DDOS for poor security and blast vendors for fragile products, but the scum from under rocks is ultimately responsible & a chill is needed to discourage such activity. If a few could be executed for treason, so much the better, but I suspect international laws against the death penalty for stuff that is not even a crime in other countires would make it easier to prosecute if the death penalty is not requested. Yes, and I can't wait till anonymous betting pools, using untraceable ecash, are available so I can wager on the length of your current stay in this plain of existance. >I grant you that there is a problem with legislation against tools when it should be against how the tools are used, but this guy at a hacker convention, reinforcing the erroneous stereotype of law enforcement that these tools are primarily for black hackers. He was at Defcon because its one of the few high-profile venues allowing those conducting research into these areas. Note how Ed Felton was forced to withdraw from his planned Usenix presentation. Besides, whatever he might have alledgedly done was done in Russia not the U.S. The FBI could have blocked his entry into the U.S. instead the decided to make him a poster child. Extending U.S. laws into another soverign nation is a very dangerous move and likely to backfire on Americans abroad. >I hope the FBI photographed & identified all attendees on suspicion of treason, and are getting judge warrants to surveil them & hopefully catch most of the hacker convention attendees in the act of doing what they think is standard acceptable behavior but do not realize that they are looked upon by the rest of the world as the new e-mafia corrupt morality barbarians who know how to tear things down & are not interested in making a contribution to society. See my above comment on betting pools. Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com
